Posted 14 May 2009 - 04:36 PM
I may have an upcoming shoot and they are talking anamorphic. Specifically Panavision Primo anamorphic. Should I be afraid? Push for other brands? Any advice?
Posted 15 May 2009 - 03:28 AM
I've never flown the Primo Anamorphics but its been done. I'm a fan of the C-series (also Panavision) for Steadicam (and maybe a few E-series mixed in). They are smaller and lighter and great (albeit older) lenses.
Posted 16 May 2009 - 01:25 PM
Posted 16 May 2009 - 02:11 PM
'C' series are nice but Primo's are not the end of the world. They are just a bit bigger and heavier.
I just spend researching lenses after a conversation with Howard Preston... ended up with 17 pages of them... anyhow...
There are two versions of the Primo Anamorphic, the Primo Series and the Primo "Close Focus" Series Mark II. The difference is that the Close focus have about a foot to 2 feet closer focus capability. Don't have info on weight of the Mark II but they should be very close to the Mark I which are:
35mm T2 3'6" (2'9") 14.8lbs (6.7kg)
40mm T2 3'6" (2'9") 15lbs (6.8kg)
50mm T2 3'6" (2'9") 16.1lbs (7.3kg)
75mm T2 4'6" (2'6") 11.3lbs (5.15kg)
100mm T2 4'6" (2'6") 12lbs (5.45kg)
As a comparison the C-Series (don't have all the weights, working on it):
20mm T2.8 3'6"
30mm T3.0 4' 7.7lbs (3.5kg)
35mm T2.3 2'9" 5.72 (2.6kg)
40mm T2.8 2'6" 3.5lbs (1.6kg)
50mm T2.3 2'6" 4.4lbs (2.0kg)
60mm T2.8 3'6"
75mm T2.5 4'6" 4.0lbs (1.8kg)
100mm T2.8 4'6" 4.8lbs (2.17kg)
150mm T3.5 5'
180mm T2.8 7'
Hope that helps,
Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:01 PM
I'm doing some research for an upcoming project and the director wants to use Anamorphic lenses and of course he likes the look of the Primos.
I went to Panavision Hollywood yesterday and got a demo of a bunch of different Anamorphic lenses from different series on the Alexa. I didn't hear any mention of the CFP lenses. The only primos I saw had close focus at about 3'6". Does anyone have experience with the Anamorphic CFPs? Updated specs (not listed on Panavision website)?
Also I had some questions about flying anamorphics in general. How do you typically contend with close focus issues, specifically when shooting wider lenses such as the 25mm or 30mm? I feel like using a diopter would severly limit the flexibility of the shots you can achieve. I would love to hear some anecdotes from anyone who has experience tackling these issues.
Lastly regarding the Anamorphic Primos, has anyone flown these on the new Alexa 4:3? The camera+lens+rails+mattebox is quite heavy on its own and is ridiculously long, not to mention if there was a codex attached. See the pic below to get an idea. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:24 PM
Best of luck to you.
As far as flying a 35mm Anamorphic Primo on an Alexa with a codex, I'll let some of the other guys answer that question for you.
Posted 16 September 2012 - 10:07 AM
That was the job I did on the primo anamorphics. I am assured those vibrations where put in in post... but that is the fear with them lenses. Especially in Low mode. Every shot was steadicam.
Invest in some carbon fibre 19mm rods from CINEVATE, as their extruded ones are millions stiffer, and a lightweight bridge plate from the Swiss company Action Products. You gotta get that lens Stiff or it will vibrate.
And yes.. be afraid.
Posted 17 September 2012 - 02:05 AM
Posted 17 September 2012 - 04:12 PM