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#1 zefred

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 04:54 PM

Hey everyone !

I have an old seitz 8700 as a backup remote and I cant' find a way to
power the receiver when I'm noy plugged in a steadicam 3A. Can't find
anything in the manual. Maybe I'm missing a cable.
I have a db-9 to the amplifier splitter, know where to connect the amp to the receiver, but that's it...
Anyone has a suggestion ? Heeeeeeeeelp !

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#2 IgorSavatovic

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 12:23 AM

Try to look at this picture. Maybe it will help!?

http://www.steadicen...amp;mode=search

http://www.steadicen...amp;mode=search

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Edited by IgorSavatovic, 19 February 2009 - 12:25 AM.

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#3 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:17 PM

Igor,

I just purchased an 8700A system that will eventually become my backup. Since I don't have the IIIA, I need a way to turn that DB-9 connector into something. What is that module you show in your pictures and where can it be purchased? Is it the 8720-100 "Output Connector Box"?

Also out of curiousity, what antenna are you using on the reciever?
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#4 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 11:27 AM

Tiffen is doing a bit of searching for me, but if anyone has a IIIA manual and can tell us what the pinout of that DB-9 connector is, it'd save me and everyone else a lot of headaches. I basically want to engineer a cable that does the same as Igor's box..

The connector location is circled in the picture below..
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#5 RonBaldwin

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 11:46 AM

you should talk to Terry West in LA (310-374-5711), he used to work on mine from time to time. Maybe also drop a note to Larry McKonkey as he co-designed it and might have some good advice/info for you.
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#6 nick franco

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:02 PM

You guys might try contacting member Pete Dietrich, he bought my 3a and my Seitz and may still have the manuals for both.
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#7 Erwin Landau

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 07:54 PM

Firstly, Zefred please use your full first and last name as your login... I'm sure if you look around, you will realize that your one of the few that doesn't do so...

Secondly:

Wiring Data for the 9 pin D connector:

Pin 1 - Camera Run, Brown 24 AWG
Pin 2 - Camera Run, Blue 24 AWG
Pin 3 - Gnd, Black 24 AWG
Pin 4 - 12 vdc, Red 24 AWG
Pin 5 - Channel 1 signal, Grey 24 AWG
Pin 6 - Error, Orange 24 AWG
Pin 7 - 12 vdc to amplifier, Red 24 AWG
Pin 8 - Channel 2 signal, Yellow 24 AWG
Pin 9 - Channel 3 signal, Violet 24 AWG



I hope that helps.
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#8 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 11:10 AM

Erwin,

Between you and Terry West, you guys are life savers! You wouldn't happen to know the assignment of the pins in the Lemo signal cables would you? :rolleyes:
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#9 Erwin Landau

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 02:31 AM

Mike,

No not really... Do not have any Documentation... I have the D-connector because it was used on the original PRO-1. The Seitz was a little before my time. I just felt the very back-end of the use as an assistant... and Preston since. Had a couple of BFD's when I started operating. But again Preston all the way since.

BUT:

I found an original owners manual and a technical manual online (Love the web).
I should receive it mid next week... And then I can share...
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#10 Anthony Graham

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:56 PM

Hi Erwin

Where did you find the manual? Is it available for download on a website somewhere?

I have an old Seitz i'm trying to breath back into life as a backup but could do with some info regards leads pinouts etc. If anybody has a manual available please contact me.

Any help would be appreciated.

Is there any where on the net that has a storage base for Steadicam related manuals? The guild website etc. Would it be a viable idea to create one? I.m sure there are many old bits of kit out there that have been seperated from the manuals and an infomation resource would be very useful (so we all don't have to keep asking Erwin). Maybe the the original makers of kit would like to contribute too? I know I used seeing the old manuals page on the Tiffen site. Nothing got posted in the end, now it's gone.

Thanks
Anthony
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#11 Erwin Landau

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 04:52 AM

Hi Anthony,

As said found it through a friend and got a hardcopy in the mail a couple of weeks ago. Not aware of any downloadable version. I will contact and ask if he is interested in making more copies.

"Seitz Technical Products, Inc. Follow Focus Radio System 8700A", 38 pages... a lot of how to hook it up to different rigs, like the 3A and the Panaglide as well as the original PRO rig. Connectors wise it's very wage like "using a 9 pin D-connector" or "Lemo 4pin 0 series".
It was the practice of Seitz to not over share but make a little note: No Costumer servicable parts, send to factory... Great help since they don't service them anymore...


Tiffen is in the process of creating manuals in PDF form. I lent all my old Cinema Products Manuals to Tiffen for that purpose. Peter Abrahams is in charge of the scanning...

Eventually it will be available form the Tiffen site... but only the steadicam products made by CP/Tiffen... oh well.

Maybe if I ever get a decent scanner...
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#12 Erwin Landau

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:36 AM

Look what I just found:


http://www.steadicam...p?showtopic=844
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#13 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 10:09 AM

that was the missing piece to my puzzle! Thanks Erwin!
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