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#1 Jerry Franck

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:20 AM

Hi all,

I'm looking for an easy to use onboard recorder. Possibly self-powered.

I was looking at the PDR100 http://www.chasecam....ecorders/PDR100
and it looks too good to be true. Anyone with comments on it?

If I would buy a cheap small mini dv camcorder, which one has a line in recording option?
Any models, old or new, let me know...

thanks,
cheers!

Jerry
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#2 Katerina Kallergis

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:57 AM

Hi all,

I'm looking for an easy to use onboard recorder. Possibly self-powered.

I was looking at the PDR100 http://www.chasecam....ecorders/PDR100
and it looks too good to be true. Anyone with comments on it?

If I would buy a cheap small mini dv camcorder, which one has a line in recording option?
Any models, old or new, let me know...

thanks,
cheers!

Jerry


I do not have one myself, although from reading the forum, it seems most operators use the Archos. Compared to what you're looking at, it's a lot more cost efficient. This PDR100, does it have a screen so you can watch what is being recorded or for playback? I didn't notice a screen on the link. If not, then that's another reason one would go with the Archos. It seems buying a miniDV camcorder with a video IN is a bit difficult to find. I luckily have an old Sony model that has one, so I'll use that for awhile till I one day get the Archos myself.

Hope this helps.
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#3 Gus Trivino

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:27 AM

Hi Jerry

Archos 605 is great:
http://www.amazon.co...l...6115&sr=8-3

You have to buy in order to get video signal the "traveller adaptor":
http://www.amazon.co...i...6345&sr=1-1

Best to all,

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#4 Michael Suchar

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:10 PM

Jerry, take a look at the Edirol f-1
http://www.edirol.co...-field-recorder

I use a Firestore.
http://www.focusinfo...atalog.asp?id=3



Hi all,

I'm looking for an easy to use onboard recorder. Possibly self-powered.

I was looking at the PDR100 http://www.chasecam....ecorders/PDR100
and it looks too good to be true. Anyone with comments on it?

If I would buy a cheap small mini dv camcorder, which one has a line in recording option?
Any models, old or new, let me know...

thanks,
cheers!

Jerry


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#5 Charles Papert

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:40 PM

Michael, unless I'm mistaken neither of those units have a composite video input, just firewire? So you would need an outboard A to D converter like the Canopus box on top of what is already a bit of a bulky unit.

I have heard mixed things about the Chasecam. At 1 lb, also another relatively heavy/bulky solution.

I remain on the constant lookout for the ideal onboard digital recorder...we have many other threads on this subject but sadly no perfect solution (i.e. one that acts like a tape recorder, not requiring going through menus between play and record).
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#6 Jerry Franck

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:49 PM

Thanks guys for all the replies,

Yes, I agree that the Archos 605 looks good. It's in fact more lightweight than the PDR100.
And, so it has a line in to RCA cable with this DVR travel dock? And does it have to stand upright? Is the cable running on the back side of the DVR adapter?
Anyone have some detailed pictures? Thanks!!

Charles, what recording method are you using?

Thanks again for the help...

Jerry
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#7 Michael Suchar

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 08:02 PM

Charles you are correct. I miss undertstood jerry. I thought he just wanted to record. Although the Edirol does have VGA out for previewing.
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#8 Jess Haas SOC

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 09:08 PM

My Archos 404 with travel adapter has worked great for me. Well, the battery did eventually "explode" but that was an easy fix. Seems to be a common problem with the 404 but I haven't heard about it on their other models. Another plus is that you can use it to watch movies and TV shows when traveling to distant locations. You can even put your reel on it to carry around and force people to watch it :-)

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#9 Charles Papert

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 02:23 PM

\You can even put your reel on it to carry around and force people to watch it :-)


I love this sort of science fiction--I've got various bits and pieces like reels and recent projects on my iPhone and it has come in handy a number of times. On a recent show we were planning a complicated hallway shot and I was able to show the director a clip that was on my reel that sent the concept in a whole different way--much easier than describing it.
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#10 Victor Lopez

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:34 PM

Hi all, look this!!

http://www.dogcamspo...ocket-dvr-2.htm

your opinions

All the best.

Victor.
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#11 Charles Papert

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 09:05 PM

Hi all, look this!!

http://www.dogcamspo...ocket-dvr-2.htm

your opinions

All the best.

Victor.


In the specs of this unit:

"The HQR-2 does not support video playback. This must be done on a computer."

(insert sad "waaa WAAAAHHHHH" sound effect)
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#12 Victor Lopez

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:52 PM

Hi all, look this!!

http://www.dogcamspo...ocket-dvr-2.htm

your opinions

All the best.

Victor.


In the specs of this unit:

"The HQR-2 does not support video playback. This must be done on a computer."

(insert sad "waaa WAAAAHHHHH" sound effect)


But The HQR-2 records to better quality, you can record all your shots and use this device to make a Demo (showreel)

To obtain the shots is complicated in some occasions .


Victor
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#13 SergeiFranklin

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:53 PM

I've been using the PDR-100-H for 2 years and am very happy with it.
I have info and review here http://earthvideo.net/stcmmod.html
You will have to ask if he still makes the H version which has BNCs and a Pro compatible Lemo.
Sergei
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#14 Mikael Kern

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 07:15 AM

Wouldn´t the Mini DVR Pro do the job?

http://www.dogcamspo...VRspecSheet.pdf
http://www.dogcamspo...eo-recorder.htm

It records more than 100 min. in best quality (claimed to be like BetaSP) and has frame by frame playback.

Anyone know about pricing?

- Mikael Kern
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#15 Charles Papert

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:39 AM

Guys, we are sort of rehashing a topic that has been thoroughly covered here in the not-so-distant past.

The Mini DVR Pro is the most pricey contender, at around $2200 (if I remember correctly) or more. It's been around for a few years now. I think Larry McConkey uses one as well as Alec Jarnagin. Alec, I heard a few things about your unit from David Hable--do you care to weigh on this?
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