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#1 serra

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Posted 30 July 2004 - 11:42 AM

hi all

i'm interested in becoming a steadicam operator. at present, i'm trying
to assess the advantages and disadvantages of the various stabilizing systems
out on the market as there are a number of good system choices apart
from the "steadicam" product line.

having said that, i'd like to know if it's possible to be taken seriously as a steadicam
operator (particularly in the us market) without owning an actual "steadicam" but
perhaps an "actioncam" (or some other product)? i'm afraid i might invest in a system
that won't allow me to get any jobs, simply because it is perceived as not being
"the real thing"... you know something along the lines of: "he doesn't own a 'steadicam'
so he can't be any good..."

i'd really love to hear some opinions on this...

cheers,

franco
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#2 Bill Powers

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Posted 30 July 2004 - 03:00 PM

Hi Franco,

I'm a video/Steadicam dealer so please take everything I say with a grain of salt.

I think is's kind of like anything else. There are lots of very good alternatives out there. You just have to pick the product that's right for you. Think about the cameras you're going to be using and their weight, your market, and what's right for you. Don't get stuck on a name brand. Understand that you will probably get what you pay for.

At the higher end there are arms, sleds, and vests from Walter Klassen, Pro, Baer-Bel, Steadicam, and others that are very well thought of by some of the top names in the industry. In the lower priced ranges Glidecam, Actioncam and a slew of others are available.

Bottom line.. Try them out and decide for yourself.

I'm sure others will chime in. That's just my opinion.

Welcome,

Bill
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#3 serra

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 02:44 AM

hi bill

so does that mean that there really is no market perception as to what
system a "pro" uses? and one doesn't have to invest in a top of the line
system to be considered a capable operator? in a sane world that would
of course be the case... but nowadays people (and producers are people too... ;)
seem all to fixated on superficialities such as name brands...

cheers,

franco
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#4 thomas-english

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 06:03 AM

i feel there is a market perception with people that don t know what their talking about when they are booking u. If they dont know u, your work or reputation then they might ask "is it a real steadicam"

ive got a mix match (mk-v sled, provid arm and mk3 vest). and i just embark on a long winded technical explanation of everything and they tend to get bored by the time ive finished.

the thing is though, is u pay for quality, to get a rig that rivals pro, mk-v tiffen etc is gonna take hours of highly skilled labour and then cost as much as any of these. u cant get away from this equation..... get ya 20 grand out.

I ve got a mk-v sled and the engineering and thought behind it is absolutely superb! i love it and would not swap it for an ultra! no way! u can build it up slowly with mk-v, get the bits u can afford and use a cheap arm (even an action products etc) and upgrade your bits slowly, when u get paid .

good luck
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#5 Bill Powers

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 01:27 PM

Franco,

What he said. :)

Bill
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#6 Michael Stumpf

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 06:17 PM

Franco,

What he said. :)

Bill

except for the "get ya 20 grand out"

That'll buy you an arm. Better get out a lot more than 20 grand.
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#7 Bill Powers

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 12:56 PM

Hi Michael,

I was thinking about the PV2+. Anything film based, get LOTS more dough. $60K?

Cheers,

Bill
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#8 thomas-english

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:53 PM

yeah 20grand ... sterling ... 1.8dollars to the pound! wow! real good at moment

try and keep your options open too... i have above setup but sometimes borrow in a master or 3a arm for a film job..
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