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#1 Nicholas Davidoff

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 09:32 PM

Does anyone know what the current options are for a detachable tilt stage? I read some posts and checked the net and can't seem to find a solid answer. I'm aware of Tiffen's integral tilt stage but what about us Pro, MKV or XCS owners? I checked Chrosziel and Baer Bel and came up blank. Who makes a tlit stage and how can I get one?

Any info is appreciated.
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#2 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 11:24 PM

I could be totally wrong but I thought the tilting stage was some kind of Tiffen patented thing... at least that is my vague understanding of it. On the other hand it could be a philosophical design preference.

There is one thing I do know and that is I can't imagine not having a tilting stage on my rig; it's a rare shot that I don't use it...but that is just my preference and how I learned.
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 01:22 AM

Does anyone know what the current options are for a detachable tilt stage? I read some posts and checked the net and can't seem to find a solid answer. I'm aware of Tiffen's integral tilt stage but what about us Pro, MKV or XCS owners? I checked Chrosziel and Baer Bel and came up blank. Who makes a tlit stage and how can I get one?

Any info is appreciated.


Speak with Christian Betz

http://www.betz-tool...c_tiltplate.php
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#4 Jerry Holway

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 09:01 AM

I could be totally wrong but I thought the tilting stage was some kind of Tiffen patented thing... at least that is my vague understanding of it. On the other hand it could be a philosophical design preference.

There is one thing I do know and that is I can't imagine not having a tilting stage on my rig; it's a rare shot that I don't use it...but that is just my preference and how I learned.


FYI

Yes, the tilt stage is patented.

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#5 Charles King

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 04:43 AM

So if the tilting stage is patented, why does Betz have it for sale? So I guess this means a day in court?
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#6 benedictspence

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 03:43 AM

Nick,

I've PM'd you!

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#7 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:44 PM

Does anyone know what the current options are for a detachable tilt stage? I read some posts and checked the net and can't seem to find a solid answer. I'm aware of Tiffen's integral tilt stage but what about us Pro, MKV or XCS owners? I checked Chrosziel and Baer Bel and came up blank. Who makes a tlit stage and how can I get one?

Any info is appreciated.


Speak with Christian Betz

http://www.betz-tool...c_tiltplate.php


Anybody have any experience with this Betz tilt plate? Any PRO owners?
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#8 thomas-english

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 07:08 AM

The Betz plate is strong and awesome. I love it.
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#9 Jason Torbitt

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 01:05 PM

Seconded. Bomb-proof.

I may be wrong, and I'm not sure of how designs compare, but the patent may argued not to be infringed, as it isn't actually a tilting topstage - it is a tilt plate which sits between the post and whichever topstage you have...
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#10 Jess Haas SOC

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 01:35 PM

Plus some similar items such as tilting low mode brackets and wedge plates existed before tiffens tilting top stage or their patent.

~Jess
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#11 luis castro

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 11:41 AM

stage was some of Tiffen patented for Mr Garret ,the other marks are imitations
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#12 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 10:59 PM

The Betz plate is strong and awesome. I love it.




Does the tilt pale require the gimbal position on the post to be lower than if it was not there for clearance and to allow additional space for docking?
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#13 Jerry Holway

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 07:32 AM

Lawrence-

Yes, Betz's unit will add height, making the sled longer with heavy cameras (you can't get gimbal as close to the stage.)

It's one reason why the integral tilt head is integral, and the stage is a s thin as possible with the Ultras, Clippers, and Archers.

Betz copied the design (the european patent is pending...) so it's less than gentlemanly... and of course it has some drawbacks as an add-in, but it functions - no surprise - just like the "real thing."

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#14 RonBaldwin

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 11:32 AM

looks like it adds a pound and 1.7 inches in height. The weight might not be a huge deal, but the height addition is a bummer.
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#15 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:09 PM

looks like it adds a pound and 1.7 inches in height. The weight might not be a huge deal, but the height addition is a bummer.


Agreed.
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