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#1 Imran Naqvi

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 07:43 PM

How would you guys feel if you heard a rental place was offering newbies cheap rigs so that they could massively undercut regular ops for work knowing that they would eventually buy a rig from them?
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#2 Nicholas Davidoff

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 08:29 PM

That would be the single most despicable thing a rental house could do to the steadicam profession!
I would boycott that place.
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#3 Stephen Vanderspek

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 09:12 PM

That would be the single most despicable thing a rental house could do to the steadicam profession!
I would boycott that place.

Undercutting leads to more undercutting etc etc etc.
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#4 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 09:17 PM

How would you guys feel if you heard a rental place was offering newbies cheap rigs so that they could massively undercut regular ops for work knowing that they would eventually buy a rig from them?



Who's the rental house?
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#5 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:18 PM

Rental houses offering cheap rentals speculating on future sales...

Newbies operating in rental rigs...

Newbies undercutting rates thinking they'll somehow be able to afford a serious rig and competitive kit one day...

Brilliant business strategy! Surely this is the recipe for success we've all been looking for.

Priceless!
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#6 Jordan Hristov

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:35 PM

MOOCHES!

I would not rent from them.
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#7 Stephen Vanderspek

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:50 PM

Rental houses offering cheap rentals speculating on future sales...

Newbies operating in rental rigs...

Newbies undercutting rates thinking they'll somehow be able to afford a serious rig and competitive kit one day...

Brilliant business strategy! Surely this is the recipe for success we've all been looking for.

Priceless!


Too few people look long term :(
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#8 Mike McGowan SOC

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 11:52 PM

How does a rental house sell rigs? Like used rigs or something?
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#9 Imran Naqvi

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 03:29 AM

The best part, these guys aren't new to the industry they tend to have been established AC's before making the transition.

I love how anything goes in the UK it seems.
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#10 chris fawcett

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:30 AM

Dear Imran,

Post the name of the company, please.

What other power do we have but to know who we are dealing with?

Best wishes,

Chris
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#11 Imran Naqvi

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 11:24 AM

At the moment I'm not prepared to name the hypothetical company because their name came from someone else and whilst I believe him, it wouldn't be right.

However there are only a few such companies in the UK whose business involves hiring out professional rigs.
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#12 chris fawcett

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 01:23 AM

Imran,

I understand your reluctance, especially given the circumstances.

So let's keep this a hypothetical question. I propose that, in future, we name and shame low-ballers, and those that encourage low-balling. It's a simple, honest approach to the problem. This is our community, after all.

Best wishes,

Chris
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#13 Amando Crespo

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 09:33 PM

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#14 Amando Crespo

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Posted 19 September 2008 - 10:16 PM

In order to begin the list......

http://www.falcofilm...p;familia=gruas

May be a toy stabilizator..... But..... 105? / 24 hours?.

what kind of producer or production can trust in this?.... For newbies?....Nooo....

The result will be, that the beginner director will not trust in steadicam ops or shots made by it
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#15 Marc_Mueller

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 03:57 PM

Would be much more interesting which operator handle that crane must be some artistic like Spiderman.
I'm sure as wireless remote you get a long rope.
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