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#1 mark morgan

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 09:36 PM

please guys don't beat me up here
my question is this,if you are working on a
lets say "b" or less rated film
and you are not in the 600 union
can they keep you from working
if you are contracted as an owner operator
whether it be steadicam,technojib, technocrane, or moco operator

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#2 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 11:34 PM

my question is this,if you are working on a
lets say "b" or less rated film
and you are not in the 600 union
can they keep you from working
if you are contracted as an owner operator
whether it be steadicam,technojib, technocrane, or moco operator


Hi Mark, I'm a relatively new Local 600 member and can't give you a 100% but you'll at least find a partial answer to your question in the "Know Your Rights" section of the IATSE 600 web site. www.cameraguild.com. There's also some more info on www.lenswoman.com in her Union section.

Hawaii falls into the District 2 / Western Region but whether Hawaii is a right to work state or not is something you'll have to find out if you don't already know the answer. I'm a member of the Local 720 in Las Vegas as well and it's completely loosey goosey there as to who gets on jobs or not.

The biggest hurdle here in LA is getting on the Industry Experience Roster which is administrated by the Contract Services Administration Trust Fund. If you don't know what that is yet, dig in because there's not enough pixels on the Forum to try to explain that whole process. After you get on the IER, then you go through the Safety Pass Program, apply to the 600 and write one big check or a medium check and two years of smaller checks.

The initiation fee is substantial and a bit of a bite but so is losing a job opportunity if you're not a member if that were to ever be the case.
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#3 mark morgan

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 04:13 AM

aloha robert
thanks buddy
yeah i have actually sent contract services my 100 days of work
with check stubs,what each event was where it went
whether it was tape,live to tape,live or even just dvd series
also letter heads from the companys and then contract services tells me they want copys of my invoices

at that point i was stuck in a bad way
our house was broken into computer and alot of other goodies where stolen
and then i also delete my old invoice after a
certain amount of time because i need the space
my bad for not backing them up on a differnt hard drive
lesson learned
so not only do i own my own steadicam rig i also own a couple of jibs and a technojib
this is the reason i am wondering about the owner operator thing

i went to the rights to work part of there website but it was rather vague
but once again thanks for the help

oh and i still have your sticker on my case from when you where at tiffen
i laugh all the time when i see that
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#4 Kris Torch Wilson

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 02:57 PM

aloha dude,

bad news about the house. Hope the bastards fall into a volcano.

several years ago before I was in the union, I worked on several union jobs as a contractor. the problem was with the stagehands that found out and refused to help. we were in atlantic city and i think the producer greased a palm or two just to get through the day. he then politely told me he couldn't use me again until I joined. i have been on several jobs here recently where the jib op was non union and billed through his company without any problems, so it can be done.

Torch
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#5 mark morgan

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 12:30 AM

aloha dude,

bad news about the house. Hope the bastards fall into a volcano.

several years ago before I was in the union, I worked on several union jobs as a contractor. the problem was with the stagehands that found out and refused to help. we were in atlantic city and i think the producer greased a palm or two just to get through the day. he then politely told me he couldn't use me again until I joined. i have been on several jobs here recently where the jib op was non union and billed through his company without any problems, so it can be done.

Torch



thanks chris
hope all is well with you and the fam
always look for you when i see the jimmy show
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