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#1 PaulSommers

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 08:33 PM

Check this out. I just found it surfing. It seems to have quite a bit to offer. 12v in and NTSC video. The resolution isn't that great but my EVO-220 could bite the dust at any time.

Has anyone bought one of these?





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#2 markdeblok

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 11:59 AM

I've been using a simular recorder for about a year now, called clipmaker, mounted between battery and sled.
google for details.

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#3 RobVanGelder

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 11:08 AM

Hi Mark, tell us about your experiences, we tried to hear that from you a few months ago but you must have been busy.

People like Larry are very interested in the real life experiences of this thing that seems to out-do all other recorders.

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#4 markdeblok

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 11:28 AM

I'm using a clipmaker, in between post and battery

I've been using the system for about a year, not only on the sled but also as the video assist recorder for the A camera. It is not very solid build but has a lot of nice features, it will work with an ordinary philips remote and it is very easy to change hard disk. After recording it will also play the last recording and it is easy to play in slomo or to make a still, quality of the picture is amazing; it is hard to see a difference between live or play back. The recorder itself will need a stable 12v supply, so no 13.2. Service is terrible so if you buy one make sure not to buy it directly from the factory. Google for Clipmaker to find more info and on where to buy ( it is expensive compared to tape)
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#5 Mitch Gross

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 10:05 AM

Optex just introduced a new MPEG-2 recorder that seems right up the Steadicam alley.

http://www.pbm3.com/...aa0.2841.970609
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#6 RobVanGelder

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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:26 AM

I could not find this item on the Opex side but this link will give you the pdf-file from this little wonder:

http://www.videoglas...m/Sting_GEN.PDF
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#7 RobVanGelder

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Posted 26 September 2004 - 09:02 PM

A question: is it possible to edit with MPG-2 encoded files?
The (I admit- home use only) programs that I use can only handle AVI files.
(Pinnacle Studio 7)
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#8 Larry McConkey

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Posted 26 September 2004 - 09:06 PM

I have been very interested in the ClipMaker ever since Mark mentioned using the unit, but daunted by the lack of a US distributor until recently when I found one. It is a security company in Virginia run by Joe Van Cleve who was nice enough to offer me a demo unit when Hurricane Ivan threatened to wipe out New Orleans (where I am working on a film) and I fled to higher ground. The unit is called a WaveMaker here in the US and Joe has promised me a unit soon. I will check it out, and see how it compares to the Sting if I can get my hands on one of those as well. The Sting sure looks to be the right size and weight!! Both units are in the neighborhood of $4000.00 dollars (depending on hard drive size and accessories) so the decision is not a light one. I will post when I have more info. Anyone else with experience with either of these or any other MPEG-2 quality DVRs?

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#9 JasonMcKelvey

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 01:25 PM

Didn't see any posts on this:

Fast Forward Video (FFV) Mini DVR Pro and OEM Outrider DVR
dual compact flash or 2.5" hard drives
5.7x3.5x8 inches
user selectable compression
4 to 20 minutes per GB
NTSC/PAL
composite and YC in/out
7-25VDC

www.ffv.com

PDF
http://www.ffv.com/d...taSheet_000.pdf
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#10 RobVanGelder

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 08:42 PM

Interesting, wonder about the price though. I could not find anything on the website.

The usage of memory is a concern, very pricy compared to tape if you want a reasonable quality. What does a 2,5" minidrive 2 or 4 gig cost nowadays?

But it is sure nice, also with the GPI trigger input so you can start it automatically when the camera starts.
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#11 RobVanGelder

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:01 PM

I should have gooooogled before asking questions....

40 G 2,5" HDD is about $185 , you´ve got a lot of space, about 2,5 hours on a disc in the highest resolution (around 160 minutes) but you´ve got a spinning disk that could fail.
So that´s about $75 per hour.

With the Sandisk cards they mention you have a 2gig card with no moving elements for .........around $300. That wil give you 8 minutes on high quality or 40 minutes on low resolution.
Compared to the HDD this is $ 2250 per hour in High Quality.................

My wallet is empty now, I will stick to tape until some BIIIG job comes up!
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#12 JasonMcKelvey

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:53 PM

What about getting a couple of 4 Gig cards ($500), then dumping them to a laptop every hour or so? I would think that since it holds 2 cards, you could keep recording on 1 while the other is uploaded to a laptop. Assuming you own a laptop, you could keep reusing the cards.
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#13 RobVanGelder

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 12:08 AM

I´ve received some questions regarding the GPI input that I mentioned, so I thought it is better to reply here:

GPI = General purpose interface, a port that will allow you so switch something on or off, works together of course with the GPI-output where you can connect anything to be switched on or off with the proper electronics.

Normally you have to connect this input either to ground or to a certain voltage, to get the required action.

more info: google on gpi input
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#14 Bill Powers

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Posted 01 November 2004 - 03:14 PM

Jason and Rob,

I just got off the phone with the Fast Forward Rep. in our area. The List Price is scheduled to be $3,495.00 USD. Storage is not included. At this time, there are no prototypes available for the reps in the U.S. They have just re-packaged the units. See FFV product PDF. That is the new package, they just can't get enough of them just yet. Delivery is scheduled for the end of the year. (Meaning January or February.)

Cheers,

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#15 Mark Playdon

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 04:39 PM

Hi All,

Just in case you are still interested in the Mini DVR Pro from Fast Forward Video the price has just been reduced to $2,295 and CF cards are available up to 16 Gb now and the 8Gb cards are only around $300, way cheaper than a year or 2 ago. FFV also have a new portable recorder the NDT 200 check out the recent posts on this unit.

Mark Playdon
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