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#1 Jason McCleave

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 09:40 PM

Hey guys basically after any tips or advice before I jump in...

I've been a camera op for a quite a few years now, I did a Optex steadicam course 4 or 5 year ago and haven't actually done any steadicam stuff since. Due to the high rental cost and my lack a of practice I've never been Keane on charging myself out at as a Steadi Op.

I'm now pretty sure I'm going to buy a clipper 2 and do a refresher course . Is this a good idea? Anyone get in to steadi oping through the non-conventional path of assistant and focus puller etc.
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#2 chris fawcett

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:06 AM

Hi Jason,

Non-conventional? As opposed to those of us that came to Steadicam through hairdressing or designing spaceships?

Jason, I think you couldn't be coming to Steadicam better prepared. I wish you much luck, and a long and prosperous career.

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#3 Kareem La Vaullee

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 09:04 AM

I was told already a few times and the last time was just two days ago at Panavision by their staff that the conventional path to become a Steadicam Operator should be the grip department...

Well, that's too bad that in 2008 people in the industry still don't care at all about what is our work.

Kareem "camera grip" La Vaullée.
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#4 Kris Torch Wilson

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 04:50 PM

[quote name='Kareem La Vaullée' date='Feb 1 2008, 06:04 AM' post='32980']
I was told already a few times and the last time was just two days ago at Panavision by their staff that the conventional path to become a Steadicam Operator should be the grip department...

This is insulting. As far as I'm concerned there is only one path to becoming a steadicam operator and that is by being a camera OPERATOR first. The art of framing does not come from carrying sand bags or setting flags. It does not come from setting lights or get ready for this: from pulling focus. It comes from looking through a viewfinder.

Kris " I am not a piece of grip equipment" Wilson
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#5 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 07:55 PM

It comes from looking through a viewfinder.
Kris " I am not a piece of grip equipment" Wilson


Maybe it wasn't an insult... Perhaps they were referencing the shear physical strength required of our grip brothers and sisters in their respective jobs and how strength and stamina are one of the many critical components of our job as operators? Every time I see those big G&E trucks roll up and those big A$$ carts come out I'm more than thankful I was born with the gift of an eye for composition instead of big biceps!
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#6 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 09:35 PM

This is insulting. As far as I'm concerned there is only one path to becoming a steadicam operator and that is by being a camera OPERATOR first. The art of framing does not come from carrying sand bags or setting flags. It does not come from setting lights or get ready for this: from pulling focus. It comes from looking through a viewfinder.

Kris " I am not a piece of grip equipment" Wilson
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Your NOT a piece of grip equipment ?
Damm, no wonder I was so confussed all these years . . . .LOL . . .

Love You man . . . Mean it!
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#7 RonBaldwin

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:21 PM

I think it's best to be a circus carney first (preferably with a criminal record) -- this will prepare you best for the business. You'll be used to long hours, low pay, stupid people and bad working conditions...your stint in prison will prepare you for the reaming the producers will give you.

Don't bend over for the Lisagav!
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#8 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 11:17 PM

I think it's best to be a circus carney first (preferably with a criminal record) -- this will prepare you best for the business. You'll be used to long hours, low pay, stupid people and bad working conditions...your stint in prison will prepare you for the reaming the producers will give you.

Don't bend over for the Lisagav!

LOL . . . . .No literally I'm laughing out loud . . .
I so have to Party with you Ron . . .

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#9 Alfeo Dixon SOC

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 11:28 PM

LOL . . . . .No literally I'm laughing out loud . . .
I so have to Party with you Ron . . .

LOL . . .hahahahahaha . . . . . .LOL . . .hahahahahaha . . . . . .LOL . . .hahahahahaha . . . . . .LOL . . .hahahahahaha . . . . . .LOL . . .hahahahahaha . . . . . .LOL . . .hahahahahaha . . . . . .!!!!


Hey! stop kissing that rabbit ass... that really was funny. ::SMOOCHES::
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#10 Jason McCleave

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 07:16 AM

I think it's best to be a circus carney first (preferably with a criminal record) -- this will prepare you best for the business. You'll be used to long hours, low pay, stupid people and bad working conditions...your stint in prison will prepare you for the reaming the producers will give you.

Don't bend over for the Lisagav!


Sweet the circus was always my saftey career and I've seen Prison Break and Porridge so I'm ready for that side of things too!!

I was just curios once you'd bought your first rig was the work easy to get/find?
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#11 Kris Torch Wilson

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 01:18 PM

Looking at grips big biceps. "love you man" "lisaglav" "smooches"

I guess I forgot to mention, the path should also not be through West Hollywood.

Torch
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#12 RonBaldwin

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 07:25 PM

the path should also not be through West Hollywood.
Torch


Might serve the same purpose as the afore mentioned stint in prison...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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#13 geoff shotz

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 02:41 AM

kris- a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do! sometimes that involves lisigav, sometimes it doesn't!

as for jason, the work really depends on your existing market and your marketing skills. there are a lot of right time, right place guys and there are a lot of 'my best friend is the producer' guys. then there are the majority of us who just worked hard at it. good luck and welcome to the club. don't forget to keep the lisigav in the kit!

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