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#1 Buster Arrieta

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:02 PM

About my rickshaw... is better and more versatile like Garret or Grove

I have 5 for sell...sale...

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:04 PM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:11 PM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:12 PM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:14 PM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:17 PM

"T" and "L" for 2"-square hitch

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 07:19 PM

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 09:18 PM

I don´t know about "better", but in this setup I see again a relatively small construction that holds the total weight. A weight that is placed far away from the attachment so the forces are great.
No construction to hold forces that are at 90 degrees of the movement (so left-right).

It looks to me that this can easily twist and bend when you go into a curve at say 30 mph.

It might be versitile but I don´t fully trust it, only in the push-setup with the bicycle wheels.

Who has actually experience, and not only on a straight flat track?
As i have done already 2 times, directors like it much more when the shot takes place in a curve as the changing background makes it much more dynamic.
But the forces on the steadicam rig are then already very big, imagine when you apply the same to all the weight on the chair!


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#10 David Allen Grove

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Posted 09 June 2004 - 11:38 PM

The rickshaw/mount IS NOT designed for high speed.

It's great for marathons, shooting people on bicycles, for shooting other vehicles, shooting people running on a side walk.

The road HAS to be smooth and flat. I've never gone over 35mph in it for any long length of time.

It's a quick and very easy to mount for those slower moving vehicle shots and it's VERY comfortable, moreso than wearing a rig out of the back of a truck or van which I've been asked to do (but NEVER have) because of "time".

If you are shooting a "Fast and Furious" type of movie.... hire an experienced Camera Bike driver.
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Posted 10 June 2004 - 12:33 PM

Well, biking at 35 mph or about 45km an hours is very well possible nowadays.
I call that HIGH SPEED.

When I just started Steadicam I got a call to do this for a chase scene in Amsterdam, where a very athletic lady ( I think she was one out of Baywatch) had to chase a boat, one of those alu-army boats that was going on high speed through the canals.

In holland there was not a good chase car at that time. Not only that, they had choosen to use the ONE canal that has SPEEDBUMPS on the roads along side.

They could also not use a car as it had to be very close to this biking lady and imagine what a car would do with it´s crew and camera when it crosses a speedbump at 45-65 KMH

Se we went for a motor bike. I know, I know, it´s stupid, it´s dangerous and I should have said NO but well, you are young and eager.....

The driver is my neighbour, a full time motor-instructor and we rehearsed a few days before, not on the set as that was not known and available at that time.

We had to start behind her, with the boat in the canal overshoulder of her.
During the take we had to get past her, to look her in the face and also to see the boat that the was actually overtaking. We did the shot, speedbumps and all but really, behind her we were driving about 45 KmH and in order to overtake HER we had to accellerate to about 60-65 KmH in a few seconds.
No problem for a BMW1000, but a big problem for me of course.

Together with the speedbumps it was really an incredible force and something I could only barely hold because everything was flexible, no hardmount.
I´m sure any hardmont whould have cracked and the am would have crashed into into it´s limits.
It did hurt of course, luckely no long term after effects.


So you show up with your pickup truck and your riksha-mount on the set and you have to do a similar thing. You think you know the limits of the structure, but we all know that directors are pushing our limits everytime.
Will you do the shot with the speedbumps on the road? Take the chance or say No Way to the director and producer?

Just a thought........


Oh, I learned my lesson, no motorbike with Steadicam for me anymore!

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#12 John Buzz Moyer

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 12:50 PM

Just a thought from a guy who operated on a FAST AND FURIOUS type of movie....Think twice before getting on a motorcycle with a Steadicam...without getting into detail it was not an experience I will repeat.

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 01:47 PM

So you show up with your pickup truck and your riksha-mount  on the set and you have to do a similar thing. You think you know the limits of the structure, but we all know that directors are pushing our limits everytime.
Will you do the shot with the speedbumps on the road?  Take the chance or say No Way to the director and producer?
Just a thought........

Rob van Gelder

I shot the malibu dolphin run marathon twice. One portion of the race has speed bumps (in the parking lot where the race started). I had the driver come to a COMPLETE STOP before continuing over the bumps. Even at the slowest of speeds, speed bumps can be quite jarring to the steadicam. This marathon was edited so it didn't have to be a continious take.

I always tell production far enough in advance that there can't be any speed bumps, unless it's shooting like I mentioned above. It absolutely HAS to be a flat level, smooth surface otherwise I just can't do it. It's just too dangerous otherwise.
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Posted 10 June 2004 - 01:55 PM

Dolphin Run 2002

Helmet and kneepads are optional. I also had a seat belt (of sorts) on.
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#15 David Allen Grove

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Posted 10 June 2004 - 01:58 PM

Don't ask me, man.. I just shoot the stuff.
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