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#1 Matias Mesa

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 01:08 PM

I need to have a Carnet made for my gera, How do I obtain it? I need some help here.
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#2 JobScholtze

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 04:20 PM

I need to have a Carnet made for my gera, How do I obtain it? I need some help here.
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Matias

Well, overhere you need to make a list with names, serial numbers and value. Take that to the chamber of commerce and after the make the carnet, you need some stamps from customs. Make sure to keep the value low, becose some countrys get nervous if you bring in expensive gear.
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#3 Lars Erik

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:57 PM

I need to have a Carnet made for my gera, How do I obtain it? I need some help here.
Thanks

Matias

Well, overhere you need to make a list with names, serial numbers and value. Take that to the chamber of commerce and after the make the carnet, you need some stamps from customs. Make sure to keep the value low, becose some countrys get nervous if you bring in expensive gear.
Hope this helps



Job,

I never had the problem you've speak of. And I've been with the rig to several European countries. In which country have you encountered this?

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#4 JobScholtze

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 04:34 PM

Job,

I never had the problem you've speak of. And I've been with the rig to several European countries. In which country have you encountered this?

LE

I am talking about africa, azie, and other countrys with less financiel incomes. Lowing the carnet has nothing to do with your insurance. It just helps me to go true custums much faster. Works for me
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#5 Oliver Roetz

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 07:48 AM

Matias,

i just had a look at my carnet and could not find Argentina on the list of the participating countries. But I am not sure if that necessarily means that you can't get one over there.

As Job mentioned, keep the values low - here in Germany it's about 15.000? for the entire gear. This is obviously way to low but it indeed helps keeping trouble away in some countries. Make sure you know the procedure because of the lack knowledge at some customs offices. It really is pretty easy to understand. My carnet is valid for one year and I have forms for 5 trips in it so I don't have to order new ones every time I travel.
I just got back from the US and even there I had to tell them where to put the stamps and which paper to keep. In some places they even don't know that they are a Carnet ATA country.

When you make the list for the equipment set up one item titled "various items" or "various lights" or "accessories" so you can carry stuff without serial numbers which gives you a bit more "headroom"... ;) and flexibility.

A couple of years ago I lost the most of my camera gear in a boat accident in Malaysia ( the boat sank in the middle of a malaysian river...what a nightmare...) and the upcoming weeks where a nightmare as well. Even with police reports the departure was a huge problem because of the carnet and the listed items I could'nt show at customs. But the worst thing was that the chamber of commerce did not give another carnet...for one year. Just another horror story... :blink:

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#6 RobVanGelder

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 09:34 PM

Also, keep in mind that in some countries, with a less developed Chamber of Commerce system with it's insurances against loss of goods (for which they have to advance the duties to the country where the goods are lost) you can encounter other problems.

Like in Singapore, the Chamber of Commerce requires a bank guarantee of 50% of the real value or even a deposit on a bank like that.
The Dutch system is very helpful to it's customers, they pay only a small insurance fee.

The purpose of the Carnet is only to cover the duties that have to be paid when equipment is lost or sold to another country, so that is one reason to keep the value low, though if you make that too obvious, the Customs are entitled to search for the real market value or new value on the internet or from suppliers. As we all know that is very easy to get and then they will hit you hard!


so ask your Chamber of Commerce for the requirements.
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#7 Matias Mesa

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 11:31 PM

Rob,
Actually Argentina is not singned under IATA regulations so I still have to do paperwork, I need the Carnet for qhen I go to the US or Brazil or any other country that is under IATA. Its great to know some more details, I hope to get things started this week and see how long does it takes.


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#8 Sven Joukes

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 03:21 PM

Matias,

A carnet ATA doesn't work for Brasil, I was told recently by my Chamber of Commerce.

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#9 RobVanGelder

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 09:09 PM

Mathias, what you need to do probably is make yourself a list of all items, make pictures and make a book with all the details, numbers, LOW values (but not rediculous) and have that checked, verified and stamped at your Customs office. You might need to pay some handling fee.
Also make copies of your pictures/information as separate documents that you can give to the US customs.

When you enter the US you have to go to the Customs office immediately and show them what you are bringing in, have them stamp that book of yours, give copies if needed and so, they might even need to put a remark in your passport.

Return trip: show everything again and have them checking that everything is removed from the US.
The book should allow you to enter your own country if all items are complete.



Or:

find an freight forwarder in your country and see what their procedures are.

Anyway, it's a pain! :(


Oh: IATA is the organisation of the air-carriers, it is not related to the ATA - carnet
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#10 Matias Mesa

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:34 PM

I've been dealing with customs in Argentina with no problem at all, returning has never been a problem, the thing is going into the US mainly where I go too often and they allways let me in beacuse of some article in their customs laws, since everything in my gear is made in the US I have no problem. But they insist that in order to make things easier and faster I need the carnet so I have to go that path.

Thanks to all for the help


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