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#1 guillermo nespolo

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Posted 18 May 2004 - 04:56 PM

i just buy old style mags for arri 3 and i was wondering if there is some advice u can give me (jokes like buy your self a sl mags no plis :P , but if u want i accept donations)
or things that i must now about this type of mags
here some pics
open mag



close up

mr landau pic
this last one its form a shooting of mr erwin landau (if im ok )
ps the place where i upload the pics its the easy way that i find to do it i have some porn banners on there but i thing tha u dont mind this at all
thanks a lot guillermo nespolo bs as argentina
ps 2 alot more cheap than sl mags , that its what i can afford right now :D
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#2 David Campbell

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 11:22 AM

Hi,

These are old mags that worked very well in their time. They were always liable to jam at high frame rates and Directors, of course, always wanted to test the limits and push the frame rates higher so your mags have very likely seen many jams. Hopefully new parts were used for all repairs and upgrades such as the stainless drive gear have been made. Be very cautious before using on set with your valued clients. Check that all screw holes have screws in them and that the gear cover is not chipped or broken where it mates to the camera as light leaks can occur in either case. I suggest you check the mags two ways, with load tester to set the spring tension on take up (just as you do with standard Arri IIc mags) and with an actual 400' dummy load (they tend to jam 1/2 way thru 2/3's way into the roll). As the mags are older you may have some outdated parts that are hard to replace, try to keep frame rates with your mags down and caution your assisitant against roll outs. Put the loader on alert to always seat the core in its locked position as failure to do so is a freaquent cause of mag jams. The assistant should check that the film advances correctly before loading on the camera. We also taped up the light trap door when using them.

I used these style mags very often as steadicam assistant in the 80's and early 90's. When I began operating I bought two from a well known operator (who is now a DP), set the take up tension and ran them with small dummy loads before using them on set. Even after this testing both jammed on their first days use on a job, the second jam popped an internal camera fuse that caused the camera to run wild. We had a back up body, good. It was set up super 35 (by accident) and the assistant had checked it only with the wide lens I had been working with that morning and the Cooke 5-1 zoom, the T/2.1 primes would not seat, bad. I finished the day lugging the Cooke zoom and my pride as my now worthless (but with the famous ops name all over them) mags were put away (and haven't been pulled out again).

I know rental houses that still use these mags. If the rental house that you get gear from most often does they may be happy to look over your mags and give you an opinion also (I wish I'd sent my mags to the rental house for the shoot I was on). Sorry about the downer story, I hope you have much better luck with your mags!

David Campbell
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#3 guillermo nespolo

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 05:45 PM

thanks so much david for your awnser ..i wait so much time for someone to do that......
dont worrie i was awear that this mags can have some problems when i buy it but ...still is ok cause i realy hate to work with regular arri 3 mags and the low mode cage ....that is a really downer...


thanks again david for be the first to give me the awnser ..
guillermo nespolo bs as argentina
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#4 David Campbell

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Posted 02 June 2004 - 11:19 AM

Hi Guillermo,

You will be much happier then with regular mags I'm sure. Most of the work in keeping your mags performing well will your assistant's responcibility. My compliments to good assistants around the world. Best of luck to you.

David Campbell
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