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#1 Lukas Franz

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Posted 07 April 2007 - 01:15 PM

Hello guys.

Ok, I know there are Eastern holidays for many of you. But the ops who like to talk about their work are welcome to answer. The others may response from Tuesday on ;-)

So, my question to all experienced low mode operators: do you have a different drop time for your rig in low mode? I'm just curious. I very rarely need to do shots in low mode. But I'm practicing it for myself a lot. I always set a longer drop time in low mode as in regular mode. The shots are much smoother. But that is my feeling...

Thanx and Happy Eastern to all.

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#2 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 07 April 2007 - 02:10 PM

So, my question to all experienced low mode operators: do you have a different drop time for your rig in low mode? I'm just curious. I very rarely need to do shots in low mode. But I'm practicing it for myself a lot. I always set a longer drop time in low mode as in regular mode. The shots are much smoother. But that is my feeling...


I use the same drop time so the rig feels the same. I also operate close to neutral on the drop time.
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#3 TJ Williams

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Posted 08 April 2007 - 09:14 PM

It's often good to be more neutral in Low mode as you may be required to hold more up tilted camera angles.
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Posted 08 April 2007 - 10:27 PM

It's often good to be more neutral in Low mode as you may be required to hold more up tilted camera angles.



Actually I always operate close to neutral
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#5 Andrey Yazydzhi

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 12:34 AM

I use the same drop time so the rig feels the same. I also operate close to neutral on the drop time when I need to hold more up tilted camera angles.

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#6 Dan Coplan

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 01:34 AM

For those of you who responded about operating neutral specific to low mode for help in tilting up, what are your thoughts about operating with a drop time you like and simply dialing the weight back on top to give you the tilt you want?

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#7 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 01:39 AM

For those of you who responded about operating neutral specific to low mode for help in tilting up, what are your thoughts about operating with a drop time you like and simply dialing the weight back on top to give you the tilt you want?

Dan



You could do that. But you would kill the dynamic balance which you really want to be, when you are neutral....
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#8 Charles Papert

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 02:24 AM

Low mode would be one of the more obvious times that a tilt head like the one on the Ultra 2 would be very handy so that you could have your cake (build in a tilt bias) and eat it too (preserve dynamic balance).
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#9 Jerry Holway

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 09:07 AM

Top to bottom balance is always a compromise between getting the balance of the the rig to help you, the pendular effects as you move around, and the ease of tilting if you need to.

I prefer a rig that is somewhat bottom heavy so I get some feedback and the rig helps me hold headroom or a tilt angle. My preference.

Clearly, a 100% neutral rig requires 100% active manipulation all the time, gives no feedback, and can't be balanced to hold headroom. A very bottom-heavy rig seeks vertical strongly, but is nearly impossible to control when moving about, tough to tilt, and tough to balance at an attitude other than vertical.

Somewhere between these extremes is something you can learn to use, and use wisely, balancing for the shot or moment.

It there are little or no pans, using a balancable rig to hold your tilt is far preferable to trying to hold a specific angle all on your own. If there are a lot of pans (and no tilt head), then it's tougher and a more neutrally balanced rig might work better, as it might if there were a lot of different tilts in the shot.

As for the cake and eat it too with ice cream... throw in the (position sensing) motorized stage to balance well for each part of the shot.... (couldn't resist)

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#10 Charles Papert

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 01:40 PM

As for the cake and eat it too with ice cream... throw in the (position sensing) motorized stage to balance well for each part of the shot.... (couldn't resist)

Jerry


Ah yes, how quickly I forget. Alternatively of course, the horizon correction and instant low-mode of the AR. Or maybe best of all--Technocrane! Because of the comfy chair with cupholders!
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#11 Lukas Franz

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 03:00 PM

Thanx for the answers, guys. It's always interesting to see how different we all operate our rigs in different situations sometimes...

As I wrote before, I prefer to do a little longer drop time for low mode, too. And perhaps I should get one of those nice tilt stages...of course with a remote control....and an AR and a technocrane and a big cake with ice cream and many chocolate granules :-)

Greetings from Switzerland.
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#12 Amando Crespo

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 10:04 PM

Thanx for the answers, guys. It's always interesting to see how different we all operate our rigs in different situations sometimes...

As I wrote before, I prefer to do a little longer drop time for low mode, too. And perhaps I should get one of those nice tilt stages...of course with a remote control....and an AR and a technocrane and a big cake with ice cream and many chocolate granules :-)

Greetings from Switzerland.
Lukas


Hi!.
When you works in low mode...(If your camera plate permits)... It helps you, if tilt rotate up... have care with the balance, and you´ll work moore confortable
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