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#1 Ari Gertler

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 01:27 PM

Has anyone ever used the "D" bracket which was designed for low mode in "regular mode" in order to lower the total rig a few extra inches? This also allows the camera to be lowered without bottoming out the arm.The only thing holding the rig to the D bracket is the safety pin which should be safe. This should work as long as the camera does not need to pan too much since the bracket will get in the way of the rig/camera? Are there problems with this set up?

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#2 charlesneufeld

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 02:02 PM

Hey Ari,

I use my PRO D-bracket like this all the time. I got a 12" post on one side and the stock 3" post on the other. I can quickly drop the lens from 3- 12". I put a kipp handle on the arm post bolt of my 3A. The only problem is that sometimes I have to rotate the D section outward so it dosen't smash my monitor.

I can take a pic if that doesn't make sense.

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#3 WillArnot

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 12:42 AM

Hi Guys,

This would be referred to as Low High-mode. Very handy when you need to be at 'sitting at the dinner table' height. And that angle on your D bracket is a great refinement to the regular D bracket, and helps keep the gimbal yolk from hitting the post in the pictured configuration.


High Low-mode is low mode without the D or F or J bracket, ie. arm post goes straight into gimbal without any inversion or bracket etc. This is handy for a child's eye level.

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#4 IgorSavatovic

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 03:17 AM

I usuly use it like this. It works great but, of course heavy pans are not possible.

http://www.steadicen...amp;mode=search

this shot is done with Glidecam, but I use it like this with Artemis also!!
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#5 Dave Wowchuk

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 01:43 PM

In regards to the safety pin ... did you have to drill a hole for it into your gimbal handle, or was it already there?
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#6 Dave Wowchuk

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 01:45 PM

No responses to my question? (I've actually asked this twice before) I'd really like to figure out how this works, as they never talked about this configuration at the workshop I attended ... we just did the "high-low" mode.
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#7 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 02:02 PM

I do it all the time. It's a very useful tool to have in your bag of tricks
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#8 Charles Papert

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 02:53 PM

Dave:

The hole in the gimbal to allow for has been around in the Steadicam brand for years, was carried through with the PRO and I believe most other manufacturers...sounds like not so much with Glidecam...?
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#9 Dave Wowchuk

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 09:33 PM

Charles ... thanks for the reply.

The answer is: No ... no hole in the handle. I guess I'll have to talk to my machinist and see what he can do. But first, I think I should buy the bracket first (and I'll get it it from GPI.)

Another lesson learned from the school of "you get what you pay for."

Thanks!

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#10 Andrey Yazydzhi

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 12:02 AM

Dave !
Don't forget about safety of your rig .
Your safety pin must be made from good steel and be not less than 4mm in diameter (!).

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#11 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 12:33 AM

Your safety pin must be made from good steel and be not less than 4mm in diameter (!).



It's included with the bracket from GPI or Tom Gleason, so no worries
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#12 Alec Jarnagin SOC

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 12:44 AM

Eric, Charles,

I believe both you guys switched to the XCS gimbal fairly recently. Did you opt for the ergo-hande? By default (at least when I bought mine), there was no hole in it. It was designed to use a "J-Bracket" for the situations where you need to be lower. This keeps the yoke upright and the feel consistent with usual operating. Because the ergo-handle is rather long, it keeps the sled a good distance from the arm so I have not run into issues there. One could argue a hole for a pin is still a good idea for vehicle mounted shots, etc. but.....
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#13 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:05 AM

No I tried the ergo and it's not for me, but then again I'm pretty much stuck in my ways of operating. Guess you become a bit of luddite after 24 years of operating in a specific way.
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#14 charlesneufeld

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:18 AM

Hey Guys

My ergo XCS does not have the hole in it either. But as Alec says, it does not need to be inverted for low mode...and I love it that way :)
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#15 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:21 AM

My ergo XCS does not have the hole in it either.



Exactly. With flipping the gimbal though I do get a few inches lower than a ergo can
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