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#1 Andrew Mazzoli

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 02:48 AM

Hey Guys

I ve got a HVX202/(flyer e.t.a March 07), and im wanting to get a 35mm adaptor.
As we know most of the 35mm adaptors, the images are upside down.
Can you flip the image on the standard 7" screen on the flyer 12v.

Thanks
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#2 Fabrice Maurel

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 04:11 AM

Yes. Which adaptor are you getting?
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:24 AM

Yes. Which adaptor are you getting?


Hi Fabrice

I think Im going to get the Brevis, what do you think?
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#4 Fabrice Maurel

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 12:36 PM

I like the Brevis and I am thinking of getting one myself. It is very light and has a very modular design since you can change the ground glass. I am not sure I 'll use it on a flyer though... I actually just answered a similar post on DVXusers, I am suspecting it might be you as well...

Using a 35mm with a Flyer can be an expensive proposition, it can be done and has been done succesfully, but you'll need a wireless follow focus and someone to pull focus for you.
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#5 Kevin Mueller

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 10:47 PM

Andrew,

The current generation Flyer monitors can be flipped to work the way you will need for the 35mm adapter BUT it you have the first generation Flyer with the grey arm and pads you may have problems.

This was discussed in this thread: http://www.steadicam...?showtopic=4205

Best -
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#6 Dan Coplan

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 12:48 AM

If you have any questions about the RedRock Micro M2, contact Brian Valente at bvalente@redrockmicro.com. I say this because I use their product and I know him as a great guy. Yes, he'll tell you why the M2 is better than other products, but I've always known him to be straightforward. Better to have more info under your belt, even if biased, than less.

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#7 Fabrice Maurel

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 02:23 PM

I actually had a M2 for a few month and ended up selling it. I thought it was very heavy and a pain to set-up. The quality was good but the Brevis and the SGpro offer as good of a quality with a better designed setup. However both are a bit more expensive than the M2, the only downside...
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#8 Andrew Mazzoli

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 06:46 AM

I actually had a M2 for a few month and ended up selling it. I thought it was very heavy and a pain to set-up. The quality was good but the Brevis and the SGpro offer as good of a quality with a better designed setup. However both are a bit more expensive than the M2, the only downside...


Hi Fabrice
So the question still remains, the Brevis or the SGpro?
Which one have you got now Fabrice?
Regards
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#9 Fabrice Maurel

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 01:52 PM

I owned an M2, sold it a month ago. I should mentioned that I sold it because I didn't use it/need it that much. As it turns out, I have 2 upcoming projects that require one, so I got back in the market. Many new adapters since I last bought the M2...

I ordered the Brevis.... Here is why:

1/ The setup time is 30sec or less, you just screw it to the lens with its achromat if needed and you are ready to shoot. The M2 took a good 1/2 hour. The Sgpro is probably very similar than the M2 in this regard...

2/ The brevis is very, very light. The M2 is very heavy. The sgpro is less heavy but still pretty heavy.

3/ The smart thing that Dennis, the maker of the brevis did, is the ability to change to different ground glass/diffuser, which he calls "cinefuse" and will give you different shooting style. It is almost like changing film stock. For instance the "Cinefuse 3" will give you more dynamic range in the mid-tones and suppress some of the "blown out" highlights common to 35mm adaptors, however it will require more light...The Cinefuse 1 on the other hand will work very well in low light situations... In fact, the brevis is the best 35mm for low light by at least 1 full stop...

4/ the Brevis is modular. They are actually building a flip module for it, as well as future add-ons...

5/ Last, from what I have read, as the Brevis gets better, the older one are upgradable, again another plus...


You can read more in this 35mm shootout by Phil Bloom:

http://www.philipbloom.net/

The good thing with this shootout is it has a very "neutral tone" it doesn't tell you which is best, you decide.
Also Phil is a working pro as oppose to a film student... A lot of his remarks are based on "in the field" situations..."
Phil owns both the M2 and The Brevis, and met up with the guy that build the SGpro for the shootout.

It's a good read.

good luck.
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#10 Lukas Franz

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 05:18 PM

Hi guys,

I'm also one of those M2 owners and I actually still am. I like it because it's quite simple and easy and with the still lenses absolutely unexpensive to use.

Fabrice, do you know, where those brevis are being sold? Available in Europe too?

I never heard of the brevis, but it looks very interesting.


Greets, Lukas
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#11 Fabrice Maurel

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 07:27 PM

Lukas, you can check out their website:

http://www.cinevate.com

It's made in Canada, but they will ship anywhere in the world.
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#12 Andrew Mazzoli

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 04:09 AM

Lukas, you can check out their website:

http://www.cinevate.com

It's made in Canada, but they will ship anywhere in the world.



Hey
Guys

A couple of people have decided to go the Brevis Road, I think I will do the same.
Are you getting the bundle Fabrice, if not are you getting?
cheers
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#13 Fabrice Maurel

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 06:27 PM

I ordered the bundle, which basically is the 35mm adaptor with an achromatic lens. I am also getting the Cinefuse 3 , the Brevis to rail mount and the 82 to 72 step down ring for my HVX.

cheers.
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#14 Lukas Franz

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 11:26 AM

I checked out cinevate's homepage. I think the brevis is absolutely comparable with the M2, its price too! Almost the same <_<

Fabrice, what lens mount have you ordered with the adapter?

Lukas
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 03:53 PM

I actually had a M2 for a few month and ended up selling it. I thought it was very heavy and a pain to set-up. The quality was good but the Brevis and the SGpro offer as good of a quality with a better designed setup. However both are a bit more expensive than the M2, the only downside...


Personally, as an M2 owner, I find the extra weight handy. I always have to add weight to any of the prosumer cameras I've used. I generally need a camera weight in the 10 to 15 lb. range to balance properly.

When getting the Brevis, I would also get the rod mount and the Brevis-to-rails mount. Just me, but I wouldn't trust the weight of a lens on the plastic threads of most cameras. This puts the price dead even with the M2 Indie Bundle.

Also, could someone tell me the movement method for the Brevis imaging element? From its size, I'm guessing oscillating.

Brett

P.S. I'm a bit biased. I started with a home built Micro35. I now use the M2 and I administer the Redrock forums. (For free, I just like these guys!)
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