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#1 Michael Tien

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 02:44 PM

I have a non Steadicam Rig and one thing it lacks is pitch control where the arms connects to the vest. My question would be, how many axis' can you adjust on a proper vest? Is it strictly side to side roll or can you adjust for and aft as well? I would like to Mcgyver a better receiver for my rig.

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#2 Anthony Hardwick

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 06:28 PM

Most vests feature adjustable side to side (or roll axis as you put it), as well as fore/aft adjustability. If the vest doesn't have both axis adjustable, then you could never fully trim the rig properly to float in the desired position while standing properly with good posture (or as good as possible with the rig on anyway).
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 06:42 PM

michael- correct me if i'm wrong, but side to side adjusments are made on the vest side while fore and aft adjustments are made on the socket block on the arm. which arm do you have? and which vest? we might be able to give better advice if we know which models you have.

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#4 Michael Stumpf

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 07:08 PM

Geoff,

No arm that I know of has fore and aft adjustments. It's in the vest.

To the original poster, I'd say you need to get a new vest.
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#5 Michael Tien

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 08:03 PM

I figured the vest had the controls. Does anyone have a CU picture of this part? I own a Hollywoodlite Running Rig. It's a great low cost rig that quite nicely even on longer lenses. The gimbal is smooth and the arm to take up to 25 pounds of camera. Without the pitch adjustment I find I can't sustain a shot too long without feeling it in my back. I sure physical fitness is part of the problem.

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#6 WillArnot

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 08:20 PM

I'm assuming it's a front mounted vest we're talking about, b/c the following is opposite for a back-mounted vest.

The two thumb screws on a master/pro vest, control front to back lean - fore & aft.

The two aircraft bolts at the spud end of the arm (that which goes into the socket) control your side to side.

To answer your question Michael, a front mounted vest has one setting (fore & aft) and a back mount - DSD/Klassen - has two settings, side side & fore aft.

A standard front mount vest has the fore / aft control on the socket block (2 thumb screws). The side to side is then set by dialing out ONE of the two aircraft bolts that are inside the mating end of the arm, both in accordance to your optimal posture.

On a back-mounted vest, the side to side bolts should be zero'd out (screwed in) (they R now on the fore and aft axis), and the side to side is set on the socket block (thumb screws) and fore and aft is set on the carbon arm knob(s).

Both axis are critical to achieving maximum spinal comfort. Just like having a well balanced sled is critical to good operating, one's posture therefore balance is just as critical.

This info is all based on the arm/socket/vest connection that is the original design from Garrett and Cinema Products. Pro also employs this standard connection. It is the only part of the original design concept that has never been changed.
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#7 RobVanGelder

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 08:27 PM

No arm that I know of has fore and aft adjustments. It's in the vest.

Well, you "can" adjust with a regular Steadicam arm (IIIa, master) for fore and aft when you put it on a back-mounted vest, but there is no reason to do that as the DSD has this feature already in the vest.
The side-to-side adjustment when on the front-mounted vest has than become the fore-aft.

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#8 geoff shotz

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 05:32 AM

michael- you are right. i have had my dsd harness for so long that i got the two reversed. i had the right idea, just the wrong axis in the right place. will summed it up properly, though.

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