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#1 Andrew Mazzoli

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Posted 23 December 2006 - 08:16 PM

Hey Everyone, Merry Xmas

This is my first of many posts I hope.
Anyway, just a quick question, Ive seen so many post in relation to the best steadicam for the my job.
I produce Commercials for television in Australia, and just wondering which steadicam to purchase.
The prices are very high, so i have to choose carefully, Im running a HVX202en PAL version.
And can anyone point me in the right direction for my purchase, and maybe someone has a used one I could buy.
Who knows, the worlds a funny place.
I will be looking to produce a cooking show also.
Thanks again.
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#2 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 23 December 2006 - 11:01 PM

wondering which steadicam to purchase.
The prices are very high, so i have to choose carefully, Im running a HVX202en PAL version.
And can anyone point me in the right direction for my purchase, and maybe someone has a used one I could buy.


You have to use your real name on this forum.
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#3 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 02:13 AM

Hey Everyone, Merry Xmas

This is my first of many posts I hope.



Not if you don't use your full name as your screen name. We delete Non real names post's around here
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#4 David Baldwin

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 06:22 AM

The flyer (the little stabilizer I own) is tailor-made for something like the hvx. Used ones pop up on ebay every now and again for about 2/3 of the retail price. 98% of the stuff I do is either with the dvx or more recently, the hvx, both sometimes with ff and lens adapters. The equipment has held up and the scaled down rig is great to learn on. Definitely consider the flyer if you already own that particular camera.

Two cents from a novice operator.

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#5 Jason Williams

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 06:22 AM

Not if you don't use your full name as your screen name. We delete Non real names post's around here


Wow, nice shoot down guys, probably not the best way to welcome someone to the forum.....
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#6 Andrew Mazzoli

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 08:01 AM

Thanks for the head up on the name change.
Give me a break boys...it was my first post.
Nice welcome....
Anyways whats the big deal.

Back to a serious business, is anyone going to let me know which is the best to get, for my HVX202
Someone had PM me and said the flyer was the go.
What do you think?
And what should i get with the complete unit/package.
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#7 Jerry Holway

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 09:45 AM

Andrew-

Your questions are too broad... what to buy depends on too many things beyond the camera you bought.

You should first and foremost go to a 2 day "Flyer" workshop by Peter Abraham (click on the Steadicam logo at the top of the page).

In the workshop you will learn how to use a Steadicam well, have a solid foundation and understanding, and then you can make an informed choice on what to buy. It will be your best investment, saving you lots of time, angst, and cash.

Jerry
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#8 Bryan Fowler

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 10:12 AM

Hey Everyone, Merry Xmas
This is my first of many posts I hope.

Not if you don't use your full name as your screen name. We delete Non real names post's around here

Good grief,

He's new, being polite, even says Merry Xmas, and you threaten to delete his post if he doesn't use his real name. Is it really necessary to talk to him (and others) that way?

Most other forums on the internet don't care what you use as your name.
I think it's great that we want to know who people are here, but you have to realize that what you are asking isn't normal, and the way you are enforcing our policy makes all steadicam operators out to be arrogant 14yr old brats.

Be nice please, at least for the time when you are writing on this forum.
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#9 JobScholtze

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 11:01 AM

Hey Everyone, Merry Xmas
This is my first of many posts I hope.

Not if you don't use your full name as your screen name. We delete Non real names post's around here

Good grief,

He's new, being polite, even says Merry Xmas, and you threaten to delete his post if he doesn't use his real name. Is it really necessary to talk to him (and others) that way?

Most other forums on the internet don't care what you use as your name.
I think it's great that we want to know who people are here, but you have to realize that what you are asking isn't normal, and the way you are enforcing our policy makes all steadicam operators out to be arrogant 14yr old brats.

Be nice please, at least for the time when you are writing on this forum.


This starts to irritate a lot of our forum members, including me. Perhaps you should tone it down mister Fletcher, or at least do the moderating in silence. Sheesh, Merry Cristmas to you too
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#10 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 11:56 AM

Im running a HVX202en PAL version.
And can anyone point me in the right direction for my purchase, and maybe someone has a used one I could buy.


Good morning Andrew:

Before I got a bigger rig, I started with a Flyer and one of Peter's workshops (www.thesteadicamworkshops.com) just as Jerry already suggested; I recommend it highly. Peter is an excellent instructor and a great peson as well.

I flew the HVX200, Sony DSR-300a and Panasonic Varicam with my Flyer. With the later two cameras I removed the viewfinders, on-board mics and battery holders to save weight. As you'll soon see and if you look at some of the photos posted here, you'll ultimately end up adding remote focus, iris, transmitter and other accessories to the rig, plus cabling so if you're going to use larger cameras in the long run the Flyer may be at the top of it's range. Call Peter and take his workshop.

The Steadicam Operators Association also has a week-long workshop coming up in May and I can attest it's an invaluable experience or at least it was for me. Tiffen is holding a week-long workshop the end of March in California as well; Jerry Holway is the lead instructor for both I believe. It's money and time well spent.

Sorry, I tried to catch your post and name change before you got "moderated" but it was too late. Welcome aboard!

Best of luck to you and Happy Holidays!
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#11 Andrew Mazzoli

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 08:54 PM

Hi again Guys

Thanks again for your thoughts, I would love to go and do that course, but Im in Australia, and run a small business. So, time as you can imagine, is of the essence.

On that note, are there stedicam courses in Australia you can reccommend, If so where?
And have you a contact? I can talk to?

On another matter.....

Some one offered me a Flyer, specs below:
What do you think?
Is this the current model?
Is it missing anything?

Tiffen Steadicam Flyer Kit
1 x Soft Case
1 x Flyer Lightweight Vest
1 x Flyer 12v Sled with V-Lock 1 x Flyer Arm (in soft bag)
1 x Flyer 7" TFT Monitor
1 x T Wrench
1 x Steadi-stand with Docking Bracket
1 x Steadicam Shot Bag
1 x Steadicam Tool Pouch
1 x Flyer Low Mode Kit
1 x Pelican 1300 Case
2 x 160wh V Lock Batteries
1 x Battery Charger

Purchased in June 06. Whats a good price to buy?
Just for curiosity sake.

i want to do that course b4 i purchase anything really, though I dont want to miss out on a bargain either??

Merry Xmas.
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#12 Charles Papert

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 09:51 PM

Andrew:

You can check your inventory against the factory here:

http://www.steadicam.../2006_Flyer.pdf

Prices also shown.
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#13 John Pappas

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Posted 25 December 2006 - 12:37 AM

Hi Andrew,

For Steadicam Courses in Australia - particularly a Flyer workshop I would speak to Phil Balsdon. He runs weekend Flyer Workshops, and is very, very good. His workshops are also supported by Lemac, the Australia / New Zealand Steadicam Dealer. His website is www.steadi-onfilms.com.au

As it is my Flyer Rig that has been offered to you, It could be seen a little biased for me to push it here, and I won't. (And yes, I am only selling it to buy another bigger rig)

One thing I will say though is even though you can compare rigs and pricing to that of those overseas, take into acount the local market, the cost of landing it, Customs, taxes, local support and the possibility that the rig is not as described - or worse.

Cheers,

John Pappas
Pappas Media Services
East Coast, AUSTRALIA
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#14 Erik Brul

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Posted 25 December 2006 - 06:07 AM

Hi Andrew,

For Steadicam Courses in Australia - particularly a Flyer workshop I would speak to Phil Balsdon. He runs weekend Flyer Workshops, and is very, very good. His workshops are also supported by Lemac, the Australia / New Zealand Steadicam Dealer. His website is www.steadi-onfilms.com.au

As it is my Flyer Rig that has been offered to you, It could be seen a little biased for me to push it here, and I won't. (And yes, I am only selling it to buy another bigger rig)

One thing I will say though is even though you can compare rigs and pricing to that of those overseas, take into acount the local market, the cost of landing it, Customs, taxes, local support and the possibility that the rig is not as described - or worse.

Cheers,

John Pappas
Pappas Media Services
East Coast, AUSTRALIA



Andrew,
John is offering you a very complete Flyer kit.
Extra's comparing to Factory are :

- Low mode kit
- Battery charger with NICE batteries
- Pelican case
- Steadicam Shot Bag
- Steadicam Tool Pouch

So a very nice Rig to have. I still have to order the low mode kit for example.., for me arround 1000 us dollars to get it to the Netherlands with taxes etc etc

Erik
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#15 JobScholtze

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Posted 25 December 2006 - 06:59 AM

You can always give me a call Eric, i still have the sk2 handle for low mode, works on the flyer i guess
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