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#1 Robert Eder

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 01:14 PM

Hello,

I was asked to shoot some scenes for a commercial inside a plane. i think its in the economy class of a 747 set. has anywone of you ever done a shot like that? i think it is quite narrow. i use a baerbel rig with frontmounted vest so i could be quite slim enough. i will check out the set soon.

camera will be a Sony HDW-730 with pstechnik adapter and zeiss lenses.

anyone a hint for me?

thanks, robert

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#2 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 01:53 PM

It can be done but it's a total pain. The biggest problem is panning, the moment you put tilt on the rig the sled becomes too long to pan.
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 03:28 AM

Yes, panning is one problem. but also you may have to walk with the rig in front of you to keep everything (rig + arm + operator) as narrow as possible.

Tilt head would be nice...

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#4 sebastian matthias

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 02:19 PM

Hey Robert !
I just did a shoot for Lufthansa in a VIP-737(one of those things people with too much money get for themselves when they get bored :P )
I do have a Baerbel as well and I can tell You it´s possible but You might be in pain!!!! the 747 is bigger,but You definitely should take some old foam-matrace with you to cover the arm.Just cut it into pieces as you need it and tape it to the arm.this will take the fear of damaging the aircraft interior away.
If you have a lite camera as for example a HD,you might even be able to do low mode if you use the normal post,with sushi-server and heavy batteries,because the 747 has a bit more headroom.
Walking through the plane is quite exhausting,because you will have to work quite far away from you body.
You might find it comfortable to walk sideways.(zick-zack)
The main problem might be the arm touching the chairs.If possible put them into a lower position.
Panning was not a problem for me,but it was painful.
If you need more detailed answeres ,just send me a message or better a personal e-mail (steadicam1@gmx.net ) because it might be easier for me explaining it in german ;)

Going to CINEC ? I´ll be there at the stand of Gripdepot !

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#5 TJ Williams

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 11:56 PM

1. in prep look into pulling seats.
2. Of course the seating by the exits has room for you to step in allowing talent to pass.
3. I've folded the monitor tight to the post and positioned the battery all the way in to fit into the halllway better.
4. Yes the front mount vest will be good here. as you will have to fly directly in front of yourself like going thru a very long narrow door, it's a big deal to get a light camera set up.
5. Schedule a massage for the next day!
All The Best,
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#6 Robert Eder

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 08:12 AM

Hi,

Thanks for the all the answers!

i think i will get it done, but it will be a hard day of work.
i am temporary trying to operate with the whole rig in front of me, quite a uncomfortable position.

matthias, i will be at cinec, see you there!

greetings and thanks a lot!, robert
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#7 Andrey Yazydzhi

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:03 PM

Robert!I have just take a day in old russian IL-96-300 , and it's interior was more narrow.But I realised all director's wishes with my stedicam mooving between the seats.Follow the advices of Sebastian and TJ Williams,- I have done some like them.Be attentive and carefull.

Andrey Yazydzhi,
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yazydzhi@mail.ru.
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#8 Robert Eder

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 04:19 AM

Hi,

The steadycam takes in the plane worked out pretty fine, but it was pretty hard on the back. The takes were not too difficult so i was able to realize what they expected from me.

Thanks for your information!

some pictures:

Greetings, robert

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