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#1 David Allen Grove

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 10:03 AM

I'm working with a Sony XDCAM next week for the first time.

I'll be using a lite ring (which I have used)



I've heard this camera is really light. Perhaps too lite? (I have a master series arm)



Any weird things I should look out for with this camera?
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#2 Andrew Jansen

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 10:17 AM

The camera is very light, but fully loaded with battery, transmitter, follow focus etc it worked just fine on my PROII rig (w/ Transvideo IIIA) with PRO Arm... I now have an Ultimate sled, but I'm sure it would balance on that sled too..

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#3 Charles Papert

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 10:49 AM

The 350 is certainly light, but one could always fly it with whichever flavor of brick on the back to give it more oomph as desired. I did a concert shoot with it last month and stripped it all down, used my LCD monitor and powered it off one Dionic from the rig (with another for the monitor, xmitter etc), it flew with two black canisters by themselves in the PRO arm and thus was a nice weight for an extended concert.

I was pretty impressed with the pictures, expecially since it is a 1/2" chip camera.
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#4 Imran Naqvi

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:16 PM

This camera is light enough to go on a flyer! (Will attach the proof later)

Provided of course you don't need wireless vid or FF.. Once you add those it becomes a light but useable camera on a regular IIIa Gold Spring arm (I use ProPacs with EFP). As charles said I'd just add a battery on the camera as well if you prefer a bit more heft.
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#5 Jeff Cook

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 02:38 PM

I own a F350 and have been using it with my Master Series rig. I found with a matte box up front, an Anton Bauer Hytron on the back balances the camera just about right. With a Dionic battery it is very lens heavy.

One accidental cool feature is it has a LCD screen on the side of the camera which I used once on a Don Juan move.... a lot easier on the neck.


BTW - Thanks for the Plate
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#6 mark morgan

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 05:34 PM

camera looks very nice,i flew it with only follow focus on my artemis efp pro and it was fine for a long haul on a music video shoot,just don't forget to format the disk prior to use,now go have fun. mark morgan
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Posted 20 August 2006 - 04:57 AM

Overhere every music vid is xd cam with pro 35 and primes. Extra front heavy. Dont worry about the disks, the format themselve as soon as you put it in.
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#8 chris fawcett

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 06:58 AM

Overhere every music vid is xd cam with pro 35 and primes. Extra front heavy. Dont worry about the disks, the format themselve as soon as you put it in.


Hi Job,

What does the total camera package weigh, roughly?

See you at IBC this year?

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#9 JobScholtze

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 07:27 AM

Overhere every music vid is xd cam with pro 35 and primes. Extra front heavy. Dont worry about the disks, the format themselve as soon as you put it in.


Hi Job,

What does the total camera package weigh, roughly?

See you at IBC this year?

Chris


Hey Cris,
Camera weight is about 9 kg without battery and without pro and prime stuff. Just body with video lens. Its already front heavy, with any lens you use. The back is to light. So thats why i would reccoment to use the camera battery. With primes and pro, ff, transmitter and back battery, its about 14, perhaps 15 kg. Easy on my G50 :P

I will be on the ibc as a visitor this year. To bussy with work, so perhaps i will be there one day only
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#10 chris fawcett

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 08:26 AM

Thanks, Job,

See you there.

Chris (also enjoying my G50!)
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#11 Lars Erik

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 05:43 PM

Hey guys, yes the XDCam is a good camera. I've used this very much. It as the same housing as the MPEG IMX, it just shoots with discs instead of tape. I love the disc functions. You have a swith called thumbnail, press this and all your shots are displayed on the LCD screen as thumbnails. You can watch your shots without rewinding.

The camera also has a flip switch. If you're shooting low mode, you can just flip the image in the menu of the camera. Nice. I wonder if Sony integrated this in the menu just for folks like us?

Chris, have you bought a Archer now? Just read that you're enjoying your G-50 arm. Have you gotten in all into small Pelican cases?

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#12 chris fawcett

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 12:26 PM

Hi Lars Erik,

i did indeed get an Archer, and plumped for the SE. I used the tilt stage on my first job, shooting low-mode live close-ups, for projection, of the Krump Kings in action in the Melkweg. A high-energy gig all round, and after 4 hours continuous, my low-mode got pretty good!

I got the sled into a Storm 2700. It fit into a 2600 too, but there wasn't enough padding for my liking. To get it in you have to remove the hinge semi-permanently (easy), and then unscrew the monitor bracket for packing (one allen bolt). But before going to all this trouble, ensure that you can pull out enough cable from the post, otherwise it won't work. Assembly/disassembly time is well under a minute. I wouldn't recommend that anyone do it, but since you asked me a direct question....

I still have the Thermodyne for shipping, though I have flown with the Storm case in the hold. I'm confident it's strong enough.

i enclose some pics.

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See you at the IBC?

Regards,

Chris

P.S. Did you ever manage your max-out test?
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#13 Lars Erik

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 06:18 PM

Hey Chris,

no I'm afraid that my maxing test has floated a bit out. I've just haven't been able to find the right time to do it. Either I've been working or the cameraes I want to test are rented out. But as I said once before, I did a shoot with a camera rig that weighed about 19 kilos. In my opinion, this is the limit. The rig will become more unstable if anything heavier is attached to it. But I think 19 kilos on such a small rig and gimbal is very impressive. But on the 24th of September I'm doing a short with the 435.

Do you know if Tiffen will sell the top stage w/ tilt head to Archer owners? Kinda want the tilt head myself.

Unfortanetely I've got some gigs when the IBC hits off. So I won't be able to come. But I'm still planning to visit you sometime with my wife. She's got a new job now, so she only has weekends off. But don't be too surprised if I suddenly show up at your door. :)

LE

BTW Chris,

congratulations on your new rig. May you and your rig have many happy moments!
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#14 chris fawcett

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 01:35 AM

Thanks!

You are both very welcome, and I look forward to your visit.

I guess we'll be happy with 19kg, it's about the limit that the gimbal can take anyway. Plenty!

See you soon,

Chris

P.S. i don't know about the tilt head being sold separately. Maybe not immediately, but that's just a guess. You can borrow mine when you need it!
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#15 Erik Brul

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:25 AM

Hi Lars Erik,

i did indeed get an Archer, and plumped for the SE. I used the tilt stage on my first job, shooting low-mode live close-ups, for projection, of the Krump Kings in action in the Melkweg. A high-energy gig all round, and after 4 hours continuous, my low-mode got pretty good!


And a another Flyer Owner seems to be leave the Flyer.. :(

Erik
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