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#1 sebastian matthias

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 01:49 AM

hello everybody !
I have a job on HDV coming up witrh the new Panasonic DVCPRO50 HDV. It´s about 2,5 kg heavy and my rig
(a Baerbel) is too big for this. The production wants to buy a Mini-Steadicam for it and asked me what to choose.
I have absolutely no idea about small steadicam systems! what is out there ? Glidecam?Hollywood?Steadicam-Junior ?
What systems are on the market, wich is the best or comes closest to a normal Steadicam ? How much do they cost?..............

It would be really great if you could give me some answers!!!

All the best to all off you ! Summer is arriving B)



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#2 Hervé Colosio

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 02:04 AM

the steadicam flyer will be the good one for what you need .
it's near 7000 ? and you use it as the big ones .
http://www.steadicam...videoFlyer.html
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#3 Erwin Landau

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 02:06 AM

Check out the Steadicam Flyer. For a dedicated lightweight rig great price, great workmanship...

http://www.steadicam...videoFlyer.html
http://www.steadicam.../2006_Flyer.pdf

Stay away from the SE (Special Edition) no reason to over pay for the same product.


The nicest body mounted rig for that weight and for the money. It's about $7000.-


Give it a try,


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#4 Lars Erik

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 02:10 AM

Never used a Baerbal. But I own a Steadicam Archer, and used a Vector and Master a lot also.

Have shot a documentary series all on Steadicam with the Sony HDV. And this I found out was too light for the rigs. Whatever I did, it was always too bottom heavy. So I bought a 2kg weight from a sailing store. The weights they had had a perfect fit to be on that camera. I attached with strong velctro (3M dual lock), and secured it with a bit of tesa tape. Now it workes like a charm. Got any drop time I needed, and easy to get in DB.
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#5 Imran Naqvi

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 03:32 AM

Hi,

Spend a 300-400 Euros/Dollars on a weight cage kit. It allows you to use your rig, and can be used with a variety of cameras, you can then tune it's weight to your preferred set-up, save a bundle and look good to production.

I have one made by Rob Van Gelder, and Mike O'Shea makes one, DV/ Practice Cage thread

Why do they want to spend money on a complete rig?
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#6 sebastian matthias

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 08:16 AM

hello everybody!
thanks for this so many replies in such a schort time!
So the flyer seems to be the choice if they want to spend the money.


Hi,

Spend a 300-400 Euros/Dollars on a weight cage kit. It allows you to use your rig, and can be used with a variety of cameras, you can then tune it's weight to your preferred set-up, save a bundle and look good to production.

I have one made by Rob Van Gelder, and Mike O'Shea makes one, DV/ Practice Cage thread

Why do they want to spend money on a complete rig?


hey imran ! that´s what i asked them too! I could just use my rig with my weight-plates..........but for them owning a little rig is cheaper,than paying for the big one! allways moneyreasons...!but i`m still looking forward to this badly paid job.....never worked with a small steadicam before and i can imagine it to be fun.




thanks for all that quick replies. i´m glad for all infos !

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#7 Charles Papert

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 09:30 AM

FYI, Panasonic doesn't make HDV cameras--I'm assuming you mean the HVX200 which records in both DVCPRO50 and HD (720p, sometimes called DVCPRO100).

I also agree the Flyer is the best choice but you might want to point out to them that if they have any thoughts of using a Mini35 or a Movietube and PL lenses with same, they will need to go to a bigger rig as that will load the system beyond the Flyer's 15 lb capacity.
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#8 sebastian matthias

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 01:18 AM

[quote name='CharlesPapert' date='May 6 2006, 07:30 AM' post='17432']
FYI, Panasonic doesn't make HDV cameras--I'm assuming you mean the HVX200 which records in both DVCPRO50 and HD (720p, sometimes called DVCPRO100).

Hey Charles !
I don´t know exactly what camera they use,but you are probably right that it is the HVX200.It´s a P2 system and also records on MiniDV.No Mini35,so the flyer will be okay.
Another question about the Flyer: can you adjust dynamic balance as you can on big rigs?

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#9 Mikko Wilson

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 01:34 AM

P2 and MiniDV - yup, that's the HVX-200. DVCPRO-HD, not HDV in that cam :)
It will work well on the Flyer, it's maybe a *little* light (for my taste), so a bit of something extra up top might be nice.

Yes you can put the Flyer in D.Bal, but it's a little harder as it's swing adjustments, not sliding rods, but it does work.


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