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#1 Marc_Abernathy

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 01:44 PM

ALL,

Im going to be Flying an Ikei Hl-55 on my masters and wanted to know if these cams have any issues or "gotchas" i should worry about. im used to flying Sonys and Panas on video work.

now i am used to carrying the HL on my shoulder in my ENG days... :rolleyes:

cam should be pretty light with Triax Adapter (~17 lbs?) im thinking..

would appreciate any responses... feel free to email me off list.
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#2 Oliver Roetz

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 02:43 PM

Marc,

I had to buy a special mounting bracket to get the rods for the motors (Heden M28-VP) closer to the lens. Otherwise the distance between lens and rods would have been to big because the mount for the lens on the Ikegami is higher in comparison to Sony or Panasonic cameras. Though I had to fly the HK 355p, the size of the camera seems to be pretty similar to the HL 55. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In my opinion there are no other issues than that. I found the Ikegami easy to fly, the plate was rock solid - no shaking. Oh, ckeck all the different connections (Triax, VF, Video...) on the camera. Depending on its age some of them can be, well, interesting... :blink:

Hope this helps.

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Keep flying safe
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#3 Kris Torch Wilson

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 02:52 PM

Marc
One thing to deal with on an Ike is the "sagging viewfinder. The viewfinder tends to rotate down if the internal tension ring is not tight. You may want to take the viewfinder off all together so you don't have to worry about balance being thrown off if it does sag. But then you have to grab tally elsewhere. Maybe just a piece of tape to hold the finder in place would be best. Also, I've had issues with blowing a fuse in the base station if I don't power down the camera before attaching or detatching the coax to the trico adapter. If I turn the camera off beforehand...no problem.
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#4 Marc_Abernathy

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 03:38 PM

you guys are gems!

good to know there are not many issues with flying this cam. i dont plan on using and FF system for this gig so im not too worried about the motor placement to focus ring issues.

thx for the tips....

ooh one question...

this should fit on the Sony Quick relelase plate correct? im sure production will have such a plate but i have a sony premounted on a long dovetail plate ready to go...
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#5 Will Eichler

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 04:32 PM

Marc,

My experience with Iki's is they have their own plate which is different than the Sony plate. You might want to check with production and see how theirs is set up. Your Sony plate may not work.

Good luck!

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you guys are gems!

good to know there are not many issues with flying this cam. i dont plan on using and FF system for this gig so im not too worried about the motor placement to focus ring issues.

thx for the tips....

ooh one question...

this should fit on the Sony Quick relelase plate correct? im sure production will have such a plate but i have a sony premounted on a long dovetail plate ready to go...


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#6 JobScholtze

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 05:56 PM

Yep, the Ikegami has his own plate. And to be honest, its not the most solid one. So check the plate before leaving the rentalhouse. You can adjust the little small block on the back of the camera that slides in the plate. After many hours it has more space. I use some gaffertape in there to get it more tight.

Hope this helps

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#7 Marc_Abernathy

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 06:19 PM

aah yes! i remember this plate now. it has a sliding lever that moves the plate up to the camera anchor. i rememebr that blasted thing wiggiling loose on tripods..

thanks once again for the save fellas...
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Posted 28 March 2006 - 09:33 PM

Marc,
Another thing to watch out for is.....If you do not get a monitor feed. check the small "Door" on the right side of the camera on some Ike's this door needs to be open to get video out of the monitor output BNC.

Regards,
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#9 Marc_Abernathy

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 07:58 AM

thx adam!
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 11:05 AM

Just to echo Will.....Definately double check before hand that the plate is rock solid. I've experienced really crappy plates with that Ikegami model. It's also a bit heavier than most Sony's so I have typically removed the viewfinder as well.
No FF eh?.....is it a Canadian Budget? :P
Just curious....which method do you use to see your program return?
I have this great little switch box that was made for me by a CBC Montreal engineer...via a super steadicam dude named Sylvain Pichette. I velcro the box to "my" side of the camera. The only downside is that I have to take my right hand off the gimbal handle to make the switch....but it is a lifesaver...much prefer this method to flying a second monitor.

Have a great shoot!
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#11 Marc_Abernathy

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 12:28 PM

hey bryan,

i dont do many live to tape TV events so i just rely on the trusty peter abraham tally light! :P i would like to use another monitor but i would need a power source wired up to it and im no good at wiring up stuff :rolleyes:

yeah ill have a look-see at the camera the day before im hoping so i can see what im up against...

thx for all your help. ill let the thread know what happens....
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#12 Bryan Trieb SOC

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 12:37 PM

I wonder if my little switch box would be of interest to any ops who do multi-cam?
When I get back from my trip I'll see if I can't take it apart and snap some pics of it.
I'm no engineer, but from what I understand it's not too hard to have one made up.
Anyone interested?

Thanks!
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#13 Marc_Abernathy

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:30 PM

bryan,

im alswasys interested in toys that make Steadicam easier so i would love to see even a photo of your little box so i could get an idea of it...

i have a 7 inch widescreen monitor i could rig up on the Sled but again i would need to wire power to it and im not good at that... read NO GOOD at that..

so count my tiny little interest in....
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