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#1 JohnPinella

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 04:24 AM

Has anybody tried the Boland Communications DHD84 DB or AHD84 DB 8.4" monitors (or other models?) They are in Lake Forest, CA. Report, please!

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#2 RobVanGelder

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 07:19 AM

Does Boland have a website or link to these monitors?
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#3 paul magee

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 11:07 AM

Does Boland have a website or link to these monitors?



Hey Rob,

A quick Google gets this: http://www.bolandcom...ifications.html

At 400 NITS it's not going to be all that in daylight and the price list is not to friendly.

They look more like a good choice for control room or video truck monitors.


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#4 Jason Torbitt

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 12:35 PM

I think MK-V have an HD Boland monitor, I would imagine that it has been modified to be more Steadicam friendly? 400 NITS will be a stuggle for use on the rig outdoors
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#5 JohnPinella

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 01:26 PM

Boland claims 1400 nts (not 400) on the spec sheet for the aforementioned models.
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#6 paul magee

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 06:07 PM

Boland claims 1400 nts (not 400) on the spec sheet for the aforementioned models.
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John,

My bad. I went to the HDTV section instead of looking at the Day Bright monitor section and you are correct it is 1400 NITs as described on their spec sheet.

Sorry for the bad info

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#7 Dan Coplan

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 03:20 AM

I'm in the market for an LCD monitor and tested the Boland using the Sony HDV camera as the source. The good news is the company is very easy and a pleasure to communicate with. They offered to send me a demo directly (credit card hold transaction) to test but I opted to have it sent over to Band Pro instead to avoid the paperwork.

Unfortunately, the bad news is...

Yes, you can see the monitor fairly clearly in daylight. But when I had the sun reflecting directly in the screen, the entire image washed out. Sony's flip out LCD monitor is fantastic (why don't they make a monitor for us Steadicam guys/girls?). With the sun reflected directly into the flip out, the image remained very clear and the reflection of the sun, which did not wash out the image at all, reflected simply as itself - a really bright circle. Rumor has it that this monitor uses daylight to its advantage in outdoor scenarios and that's why it works so well. Other pluses include a very wide viewing angle and you can view the image from any angle without getting a polarized image, unlike the Boland or Transvideo. Alas, that doesn't do us any good for Steadicam.

I had previously tested the Transvideo. Did not get to test side-by-side, but I seem to recall that the Transvideo had slightly better contrast and viewing angle.

I've only heard about the Teletest and Hummingbird. Anybody done any side-by-side comparisons?

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#8 Mikko Wilson

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 05:38 AM

Sony's flip out LCD monitor is fantastic (why don't they make a monitor for us Steadicam guys/girls?). With the sun reflected directly into the flip out, the image remained very clear and the reflection of the sun, which did not wash out the image at all, reflected simply as itself - a really bright circle. Rumor has it that this monitor uses daylight to its advantage in outdoor scenarios and that's why it works so well.


I agree.

And yes, Sony does use the ambient light to it's advantage. Somehow they have managed to get that "reflective layer" BEHIND the LCD layer. The result is light hitting the screen actually boosts the brightness of the screen.
All their LCDs that are built like this have a button to turn off the backlight entirly. I was a little skeptical when I saw that, but gave it a try, and sure enough, at times outside you really don't need the backlight at all. I belive it's designed primarily as a battery saving feature, but it really improves viewability too.

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#9 charlesneufeld

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 11:17 AM

Hey Guys,

Those screens are called Transflective LCD's.

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#10 Dan Coplan

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 11:39 AM

> Those screens are called Transflective LCD's.

So where can we get Transflective LCD's that are Steadicam friendly?
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#11 Evan Barthelman

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Posted 11 February 2006 - 09:04 PM

I had the same question two years ago: Why can't I get a "Hybrid" Sony LCD (transflective) for my Steadicam? I forget who I talked to at Sony, but their explaination was that the light tubes behind the transflective layers will begin to show when sized any larger than 2-3 inches. Basically you'd end up with uneven back lighting in non-sunlit scenarios.

Still, if I find a wrecked Z1-U or FX-1 on eBay I'm buying it and attempting an LCD-ectomy. Even at 2 1/2" it's an amazing screen.

Having used those cameras since they came out, that screen is one of the biggest advantages they have over the competition. Try shooting in full-sun with a DVX, PD or anything else and you'll see how spoiled the Z1-U can make you.

I hope that Sony guy was wrong and we can get a 5-7" multiformat transflective monitor for Steadicam use.

Fingers crossed,
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#12 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 20 July 2006 - 01:08 AM

I talked to Boland today and they are making a 6.5 inch HD/SDI/Composit monitor with Daylight 1400 nits so what's the deal with the lack of 7" monitors . . . .? is there anything else on the the market for under $3800 . . .and if you get the sony folks to come out with a 7" monitor with that tranreflective shit please pass the info on because we all could use one of those

Thanks
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#13 Jason Torbitt

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Posted 20 July 2006 - 09:13 AM

It's surely time that someone manufactured 'The' LCD monitor for us folks to use...
7"
HD-SDI
SDI
Composite
Anti glare, daylight viewable
AFFORDABLE

It can't be that hard... ;)
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#14 Mike Marriage

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Posted 20 July 2006 - 11:23 AM

Isn't the MK-V/Hummingbird transflective?

I have used one in strong direct sunlight and it remained pretty visible.
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#15 RobVanGelder

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Posted 20 July 2006 - 10:11 PM

The Teletest (as I know them) are no competition to the High-Brite range available now.

They are good but based on normal lamps and technology. so 400 nits is the max.

I have one and manage to work with it in bright conditions but only when i use good shading and what is even more important, take care that the reflected angle from the screen is always facing a black lightweight plastic plate.
it works a bit like a hoodman. i know it is not optimal, but it works in most situations.
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