Posted 04 January 2004 - 12:47 PM
Posted 04 January 2004 - 01:04 PM
Oh! and I never really charge an hourly rate, I personally find it bad business. I charge per day basis (upto 10 hours) regardless if it's an hour long shoot. After 10 hours it's agreed what rate I'm working on before I even set foot on set. I'm now doing more quality rather than quantity work which suits me fine. But when I first got the rig I would work on anything and everything.
Finally, I will and do work on student films etc. for cost as long as I can bring something to the production, challenging steadicam shots, and the script/story floats my boat.
Rates for me & the gear range from £600 - £1100 (GBP).
Rates for equipment only can range from £125 - £500 (GBP) depending on what rig your looking to fly.
The above costings exclude VAT, SHIPPING, TRAVEL, EXPENSES & INSURANCE.
Posted 04 January 2004 - 01:43 PM
Although they tend to go down when more operators are available in a country.
In Holland, the "official" rate, quoted by a rental company that has a Pro-system is around ? 1.100 including operating for 8 hours and follow focus+video transmitter.
This price has not changed in 4 or 5 years and I also try to hold this as a standard.
But for television I have once lost a job where the director specifically asked for me but as the production company had a deal with one of the major ENG suppliers and they could get a cameraman "that could handle Steadicam" for NO extra cost!
So it´s hard to make a real balanced rate card here.
Also, there are more lower level stabilisers around now and most of the time the production doesn´t give a #$#$&% what you are using, as long as it is the cheapest.
Rob van Gelder, Amsterdam, Holland
Posted 27 January 2004 - 02:27 PM
More often than not, the operator - after a particularly grueling day - will feel that he or she has not been adequately remunerated for the gross amount of effort spent. Therefore, it behooves the operator to establish a rate schedule which will accurately reflect the work done and with which there can be no disagreement and misunderstanding. For example:
$ 100.00 at the time of your appearance on the set
$ 2.00 per yard forward (walking)
$ 5.00 per yard forward (running)
$ 3.50 per yard backward (walking)
$ 7.00 per yard backward (running)
$ 10.00 actor in the shot
$ 15.00 actor not in the shot
$ 20.00 per flight of stairs (up)
$ 15.00 per flight of stairs (down)
$ 10.00 each additional consecutive flight
$ 25.00 to put the camera in the Low-Mode
$ 15.00 to put it back
$ 35.00 to change sides with the Arm
$ 25.00 to put it back
$ 5.00 per rehearsal minute, 16mm & Arri 2C
$ 10.00 per rehearsal minute, Arri 35BL
$ 15.00 per rehearsal minute, Panaflex on Steadicam
$ 35.00 per rehearsal minute, Panaglide
$ 3.50 per focus change
$ 2.50 per iris change
$ 8.50 both focus & iris at the same time
Remind the producer that the above costs are on a per take basis and not on a per shot basis. Further more the above costs vary according to the length of the lens used. Additional cost for the16 or 18mm is negligible but repeated takes with the 50 or 85mm can become prohibitively expensive.
Posted 27 January 2004 - 02:44 PM
Posted 28 January 2004 - 07:24 AM
...some lunkhead producer will surely print it out and use it for a rate sheet...
Would that be so bad???? (put that darn smiley face here)
Posted 31 January 2004 - 10:22 PM
Posted 01 February 2004 - 01:17 PM
Seriously, I've had some fun with this preposterous occurrence. When some amped-up little freak once said "let me show you the framing I want" and took the post, I put my hand over his and started moving his fingers around, saying "let me show you how to operate this thing. You see, you want to keep your pinkie down here" etc. He let go VERY quickly and although rattled, continued on with his suggestions of framing brilliance, but never went for the post again.
Posted 01 February 2004 - 03:18 PM
That's a good one charles. Will have to try that out the next time a director puts his hand on my post! (After I've lifted his wallet of course)
I put my hand over his and started moving his fingers around, saying "let me show you how to operate this thing. You see, you want to keep your pinkie down here" etc. He let go VERY quickly and although rattled, continued on with his suggestions of framing brilliance, but never went for the post again.
Posted 01 February 2004 - 06:29 PM
other can be ..in the sec hi grabs the post..u pull the safety cord and make all the rig go to hell ...and say fuck look what u have done.......!!!!!!!!!!!