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#1 axel ebermann

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 05:53 PM

I just got that monitor. Supposed to be the bees knees.

 

Only trouble is:

The thing is so reflective I can't see a thing outside regardless of the monitor angle.

Both of my other monitors Ultra2c and SmallHD Pro DP7 High Bright are not nearly as reflective

and have much better daylight visibility.

 

Am I missing something ?

 

 

 

 


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#2 Gregory Dupe

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 03:57 PM

In full bright mode, do you try to change the input profile (linear/rec709/S-log...)?

It works for me even full sun operating :-)


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#3 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 04:21 PM

You can, as I sometimes use, the Tiffen sunhood they made for their Ultrabright 8.4 monitor
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#4 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 04:22 PM

http://www.tiffen.co...temnum=252-7565
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#5 axel ebermann

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 05:46 PM

You can, as I sometimes use, the Tiffen sunhood they made for their Ultrabright 8.4 monitor

 

 

thanks for the suggestion. I really, really detest sun hoods on my steadicam monitor though
because they catch every little breeze and mess of my balance zen.

Also: I used (supposedly) inferior monitors so far and could always find a tilt angle of the monitor that would allow me to see stuff.

that is why I am so surprised that I have such trouble with the Transvideo.


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#6 axel ebermann

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 05:49 PM

In full bright mode, do you try to change the input profile (linear/rec709/S-log...)?

It works for me even full sun operating :-)

 

I have not tried that. I am watching the rec709 coming out of the alexa. which should provide the highest contrast if using a rec 709 profile 

on the monitor - correct ?

 

or in other words: do you suggest that I let the monitor take the contrast out of the picture ?

generally though I am not even getting to that point. because all I can see are the trees and the sky behind me :-/ (aka reflections)


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#7 Gregory Dupe

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 12:53 AM

Change the input profile (on the monitor) made the difference for me

On the monitor, Try to change rec 709 for a S-log for exemple (rec 709 is never bright enought for me in full sun)

I own the cinemonitor XSBL 6" and I never use sunhood


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#8 Victor Lazaro

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 06:53 AM

It looks to me like you are missing the anti reflection layer on your screen. Could it be a manufacturing issue or just that you expected more out of the monitor screen?
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#9 Frederic Chamberland

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 07:33 AM

What Gregory said. Going thru different input profile will change the brightness dramatically 


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#10 Marianne Exbrayat

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 12:21 PM

All X-SBL monitors have the bonded screen to reduce glare.  Maybe the monitor is not set for full sun work.
First make sure that it is set to full brightness: press the 1st steel key bottom left corner of the screen until the monitor is set to FULL BRIGHT (it should not be in STANDARD CALIBRATE nor in USER 100%).
Then go to the main menu, choose INPUT PROFILE and change from REC709 to LINEAR.
Finally you can also play with the BRIGHTNESS and CONTRAST via the ADJUSTMENT steel key.  All is set to mid-range by default.
 
Any flat smooth surface will become reflective in the sun at a specific angle, wether it is made of glass or metal.  That is why the CRTs were convex.  With all the flat screens however there will be a specific angle where the screen becomes reflective, but that should be only a few degrees wide.  So far the few hundreds users of the X-SBL monitors have been able to tilt the monitor by a couple of degrees in one direction or another to prevent this. If you mount your monitor at a 45º angle and at that specific time of day the angle with the sun makes it reflective, try to set it to 43º or 47º.
 
I hope this will solve your issue.
 
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#11 axel ebermann

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 01:30 PM

 thanks for the advise.

 

And yes. I did read the manual. And the monitor was set to 'full brightness'. And I do understand how reflections work.

I am just a little surprised how 'shiny' the screen is.


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#12 axel ebermann

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 01:31 PM

It looks to me like you are missing the anti reflection layer on your screen. Could it be a manufacturing issue or just that you expected more out of the monitor screen?

 

I don't know. That is kind of what I am trying to find out. Usually screens that are design to be anti-reflective have some sort

of matte finish. My monitor screen is as shiny as a mirror. Which seems weird.


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#13 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 03:15 PM

AR coating does not mean matte finish.


http://hyperphysics....pt/antiref.html
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#14 Osvaldo Silvera SOC

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 02:11 AM

That's quite odd. I used a Cinemonitor 3a Super Bright without a hood for 10 years, now a HD6 blue knob, then gray knob for the last 6 with amazing results, never used a hood in Miami Sun.  and the HD6 I have does have a shiny screen. I hope it's some weird setting. best of luck.


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#15 axel ebermann

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 04:08 PM

AR coating does not mean matte finish.


http://hyperphysics....pt/antiref.html

 

 

AR coating does not mean matte finish.


http://hyperphysics....pt/antiref.html

 

 

interesting read. thanks


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