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#1 Gustav Andersson

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 08:15 AM

Hi, anyone out there with an Archer 2 that can explain and show some pictures of how the fold up system work. Thinking of buying a used one but want to know how it works and how easy it would be to replace the rods. I know the Archer 2 SP has a "better" system for the monitor and battery so I'm trying to figure out how much of a difference it would make to see if it is worth buying a new Archer 2 SP or if I should look for a used one with the old system.

 

If you have any other thoughts, positive or negative, about the Archer 2, I would love to hear it.

 

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 10:54 AM

The rods for the monitor and the battery have a tool less release that allows the rods to slide out and pivot up against the post with the monitor and the battery plate folding down against the rods. I like to fold the monitor over so that the screen is facing in so I don’t rub it taking it in and out of the case.

 

  1. Unlock the rods
  2. Pivot the monitor around so that it will face inside
  3. Loosen the monitor and battery brackets
  4. Slide the monitor and battery rods out
  5. Fold the rods up against the post and the brackets down against the rods (They will need to side back down just a little bit once you fold them up against to post)
  6. Tighten down the rod locks and the bracket knobs

 

I have grown to like how easy it is to take apart and pack up and with one of the steadi arms how everything is tool less when making adjustments. It does not easily have a way to hang weight directly under the post which can make getting a good balance on heavy loads more difficult. I have also had the rod that runs through the locking mechanism for the support rods break while working but with a  couple of zip ties to pinch the rods together I was able to get through the gig and the next few gigs. I found getting the part from Tiffen was a pain as they didn’t understand why I would just send the whole thing in for them to repair taking it completely out of service vs using it for the booked gigs, making the 15 minute repair and then going back out.

 

Pictures here

https://campbowers.s...Misc-Referance/

 

 

 


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#3 Gustav Andersson

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Posted 30 August 2016 - 09:25 PM

The rods for the monitor and the battery have a tool less release that allows the rods to slide out and pivot up against the post with the monitor and the battery plate folding down against the rods. I like to fold the monitor over so that the screen is facing in so I don’t rub it taking it in and out of the case.

 

  1. Unlock the rods
  2. Pivot the monitor around so that it will face inside
  3. Loosen the monitor and battery brackets
  4. Slide the monitor and battery rods out
  5. Fold the rods up against the post and the brackets down against the rods (They will need to side back down just a little bit once you fold them up against to post)
  6. Tighten down the rod locks and the bracket knobs

 

I have grown to like how easy it is to take apart and pack up and with one of the steadi arms how everything is tool less when making adjustments. It does not easily have a way to hang weight directly under the post which can make getting a good balance on heavy loads more difficult. I have also had the rod that runs through the locking mechanism for the support rods break while working but with a  couple of zip ties to pinch the rods together I was able to get through the gig and the next few gigs. I found getting the part from Tiffen was a pain as they didn’t understand why I would just send the whole thing in for them to repair taking it completely out of service vs using it for the booked gigs, making the 15 minute repair and then going back out.

 

Pictures here

https://campbowers.s...Misc-Referance/

 

 

 

 

Thank you very much for your response.

 

How easy was it to change out the rods yourself?

And about the weights, I thought it had a mounting plate at the bottom, like the shadow, is that wrong?

 

/Gustav


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 04:03 AM

Once I got the part I found it very easy to change out, not sure I would want to do it in the field as there were some small parts but in the shop on a work bench it only took about 15 minutes.  I does have what looks like a mounting plate on the bottom but I have yet to find a bracket that mounts well on it. When I get to the shop this morning I will add a picture to the link above.


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 05:00 AM

Once I got the part I found it very easy to change out, not sure I would want to do it in the field as there were some small parts but in the shop on a work bench it only took about 15 minutes.  I does have what looks like a mounting plate on the bottom but I have yet to find a bracket that mounts well on it. When I get to the shop this morning I will add a picture to the link above.

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 05:20 AM

Once I got the part I found it very easy to change out, not sure I would want to do it in the field as there were some small parts but in the shop on a work bench it only took about 15 minutes.  I does have what looks like a mounting plate on the bottom but I have yet to find a bracket that mounts well on it. When I get to the shop this morning I will add a picture to the link above.

 

 

Thank you. I guess it's made for their battery mount and not necessarily anything else.

 

One last question if that's okay with you.

I have used a shadow for the past 2 years and the arm is stored inside the vest in a dufflebag. My thinking is that I may want to store the arm in a similar way with an Archer 2. When reading about the case to the Archer 2 I have fount that it is something like 62cm if I remember correctly. And when I measured the bag for the G70x arm it was about 70cm.

What I'm asking is, will the arm fit in the case without taking it apart?

 

/Gustav


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 03:29 PM

My g50 arm is 66cm long with the pin and block attachment taken off but I take it apart and store it in the slots in the case. The top of the case has room built in it for some vests and a few extras but it is only 71cm from end to end diagonally so it might just fit your arm without taking it apart but it would be tight. 


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#8 Gustav Andersson

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 03:58 PM

Thank you for all your answers :)

 

Have a great day!

 

/Gustav


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