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#1 Duffin McGee

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 03:58 PM

I have a budget of $5000 to purchase a rig. We shot with JVC DVY5000, Canon XL1 and the new JVC HDV cameras (do not remember that model number right now.)
Most of the stuff we shoot is live event, real time but we do productions for our training dept. There are times were we are in an area with Flight Hardware and have a limited range of movement. You all are Pro's in this field. I realize from reading posts of this forum it takes an experienced operator to make these things work well.

What do you all suggest is the best buy for my equipment and experience level?

Your support is greatly appericated..!

Duffin McGee
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InDyne Imagery Inc. / CAPPS
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#2 Nils Ruinet

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 04:33 PM

Hi Duffin,
Maybe you should consider putting the extra $2000 and go for a Flyer. This is a great rig for light cameras.
If not, have a look at the glidecam range. But the Flyer is really better (excellent arm, precise adjustments, lightweight)...

Will you be the one operating the rig ? If you don't have any experience with steadicam, you should seriously consider attending a workshop to learn the basics. It's totaly worth the price. As you said it takes a lot of training to get comfortable with it, and to be able to achieve nice shots...
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Posted 09 November 2005 - 08:23 AM

If not, have a look at the glidecam range. But the Flyer is really better (excellent arm, precise adjustments, lightweight)...

:D :D Guess you didn't tryd the v25 did you?
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#4 Duffin McGee

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 10:00 AM

Thanks for the imput...!

Is the v25 a new or updated product from glidecam? I see the V-20 on their web site.

Also are there any training semmiars in the southeast (USA) that you'd recommend or where is a good place to find out more information about them?
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#5 Matt Burton

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 10:35 AM

try this link click me i'm special :o)


Although i own a flyer and am verry happy with it i would kill to be able to hold more weight with it!
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#6 JobScholtze

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 10:37 AM

Thanks for the imput...!

Is the v25 a new or updated product from glidecam? I see the V-20 on their web site.

The V25 is a brand new product, just released on the IBC. Very nice system.
You can see pics and a review on this LINK
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#7 Duffin McGee

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 01:54 PM

What is this unit selling for in USD?

I did not take the time to create a user name on that site. So I could not view the review.
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Posted 09 November 2005 - 03:03 PM

What is this unit selling for in USD?

I did not take the time to create a user name on that site. So I could not view the review.


Well, its an PDF and you can download it from my webdisk. CLICKERTHECLICK

First 100 units go for 7999 US After that its gonna be 10 grand i guess

Ask them, but read first, and try one
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#9 Duffin McGee

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 03:50 PM

Job,

Thanks for the link...

Very interesting. As I have been looking around the forum and followed many of the attached links to others web sites, I am impressed with what I see. The more I watch to more I am interested in this disicpline.

I am a professional still photographer, who was thrown into the world of video or as I perfer "moving Pictures". My past work still has made on the front page of the NY Times twice and the USA Today to note a few publications. Even though I love being a still photographer I find the same passion for shooting video as I have making still pictures. WOW..!!

From what I have learned so far am I to guess that rigs are better if used by only one person rather than a group of people. It seems like there are adjustments designed to suit the operator that you might not want to set up each time you put on the rig. Maybe I am wrong but I would like some feedback anyway.

What do you all think about the lower end units? (i.e. hand held) Are they worth the money? Should I even consider them for use in a professional arena?

Thank you once again for invaluable information...!

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#10 John Steele

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 03:57 PM

I totally agree with Job here, check out the V25, I really hope the V25 starts getting the credit it deserves once more people try it. Overall in my opinion and the opinions of many others the V25 is a better system, the flyer arm is great, but you know what so is the V25's arm, the V25's sled is way better, HD ready with lots of power and video wired through the post with all no tools adjustments, the V25 will hold 25lbs of camera, the flyer around 15lbs and they're both roughly the same price(the V25 may be a bit more when the first 100 units go)

Honestly check out the V25, it offers a lot more bang for the buck. And yes I have flown a flyer and I own the V25 arm and vest while I wait patiently for my sled to be ready. :D

John.

What is this unit selling for in USD?

I did not take the time to create a user name on that site. So I could not view the review.


Well, its an PDF and you can download it from my webdisk. CLICKERTHECLICK

First 100 units go for 7999 US After that its gonna be 10 grand i guess

Ask them, but read first, and try one


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Posted 09 November 2005 - 07:56 PM

Sure sounds impressive where can i try one in uk ?
I would be able to give a realy un-biased review,i have owned a flyer for quite some time now.
I feel restricted to using infeerer cameras and lenses, my rig just can't handle the setups i want to use.
-matt

Edited by 4mat, 09 November 2005 - 08:04 PM.

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#12 Nils Ruinet

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 08:09 PM

If not, have a look at the glidecam range. But the Flyer is really better (excellent arm, precise adjustments, lightweight)...

:D :D Guess you didn't tryd the v25 did you?

You're right, I didn't get a chance to try the V25 yet. ;)
I was speaking of the actual glidecams (V16-V20 etc..., except the Gold of course which is quite nice but not in the same price range).
Maybe the V25 is great...
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#13 John Steele

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 04:15 AM

Hi Matt,

I don't think there will be any demo models in the UK at the moment, the full systems won't be shipping until January, I've got the arm and vest just now and hopefully the sled should be along pretty soon. I'm up in Scotland so if you're ever in these parts then you're more than welcome to try it out.

John.

Sure sounds impressive where can i try one in uk ?
I would be able to give a realy un-biased review,i have owned a flyer for quite some time now.
I feel restricted to using infeerer cameras and lenses, my rig just can't handle the setups i want to use.
-matt


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#14 Duffin McGee

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 12:22 PM

V25...

Sounds like this is going to be my first choice. Since they are not listed on the GlideCam Site where do you order them in the US?

What do you all think about the lower end units? (i.e. hand held) Are they worth the money?


Any reponse to this..? I have to offer a few choices for our dept to consider... :blink:
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#15 John Steele

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 12:50 PM

Hi Duffin,

At the moment you'll need to go directly to Glidecam to pre-order, contact David Stevens and I'm sure he'll take good care of you.

In terms of the lowend handheld units, well, they are good but aren't comparable to the full body rigs. I also use a glidecam 2000 Pro for some things but I can only use it for a few minutes at a time before my arm threatens to fall off, using the full body rig can also still be tiring but I can fly it for a lot longer with a heavier camera than I can with a handheld and small camera.

John.

V25...

Sounds like this is going to be my first choice. Since they are not listed on the GlideCam Site where do you order them in the US?

What do you all think about the lower end units? (i.e. hand held) Are they worth the money?


Any reponse to this..? I have to offer a few choices for our dept to consider... :blink:


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