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#1 charlesneufeld

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 03:13 PM

Hey Guys,

I will be shooting with the mini35 with a set of primes...no zooms. Any hints, problems..etc???
I did a search and found the weight should be in the 14-20lb mark. Also, any problems using the standard mattebox, and rod support that comes with the unit?

Thanks!
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#2 thomas-english

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 03:31 PM

make sure the "steadyshot" is turned off. Otherwise you get a weird vibrating or lag in the image. Have plenty of RCA to BNC converter plugs and cables. Thats all I can think of off hand. Not sure what your standard mattbox is but you ll be fine.

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#3 Charles Papert

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 07:58 PM

There isn't any way to mount a low mode bracket on the Mini35 as yet, but you can always shoot it with the camera inverted and flip the image later, or use a cage.
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#4 charlesneufeld

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:31 AM

Thanks guys! Sounds like it should be pretty straight forward...


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#5 Charles Papert

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 02:17 AM

Thanks guys! Sounds like it should be pretty straight forward...


~C


Yup. I think it's a pretty good package for Steadicam--a comfortable weight, and spread out length-wise to aid with inertia. I'm a bit biased because I own one!
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#6 David George Ellis

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 06:51 AM

Dummy-check the AC to make sure the ground glass is spinning before each take. Sometimes he or she will turn it off in order to preserve battery life. But then he or she won't remember to turn it back on with all that goes down on set. It'll make you look good by not wasting the take and it'll help the AC save face. Good luck!!

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#7 Charles Papert

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 01:20 PM

Good point David. Some prefer to leave it burning all day (except for obvious periods like lunch) to avoid this. I've got my Mini set up with an Anton Bauer mount so the power drain of the "spinner" is inconsequential.
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#8 charlesneufeld

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 04:47 PM

hmmm... does it have a R/S port? But I guess I could just tap it into my aux batt and let 'er go all day... I assume the unit has it's own voltage regulation and 14.4 won't hurt. What connector is the power in by the way? :rolleyes:
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#9 Charles Papert

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 11:23 PM

hmmm... does it have a R/S port? But I guess I could just tap it into my aux batt and let 'er go all day... I assume the unit has it's own voltage regulation and 14.4 won't hurt. What connector is the power in by the way? :rolleyes:


The Mini does have a remote start port which can be connected to the LANC on the various cameras, it's a 2-pin Lemo. I asked about it once at ZGC, the US distributors, and they said no-one had ever ordered the cable...!

The unit does not in fact have voltage regulation onboard; it's designed to run off 7.2v camcorder batteries (so yeah, 14.4v will in fact hurt it quite a bit!). Thus I had to use a voltage regulator with my Anton Bauer mod. P+S Technik is now selling their own version of the breakout box concept.

If you have interest in renting my setup (which will accept a 4-pin XLR 12v source from your rig, aka Arri 12v power cable, and thus power both the Mini35 and the camera (or you can add a rear-mounted Anton Bauer battery instead which will improve the flying dynamics and power both all day long), let me know. This setup also includes a video DA which allows for having the camera supply video to the Steadicam and a hardwire to the director/DP's monitor simultaneously, rather than have said video loop through the rig which can occasionally pervert the level of the signal (my PRO rig does this, for instance). There are pictures and more information about all this at:

http://www.hdvinfo.n...mini35test1.php

Scroll down to about 2/3 way into the article.
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#10 charlesneufeld

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 03:16 PM

Thanks again! Wow, that's a whole lot of info that I am glad I read. I am probably just going to use whatever battery system they have on the adaptor and slap it on my rig, as I am fairly certain that they have already have one from a local house. Thanks for the offer though Charles, that would be great had I brought it up at our last Prod. meeting. Next time I suppose.

This should be fun! I am very curious about this little device.
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#11 Charles Papert

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 09:55 PM

If you want to read about the Mini being used in a high-end, high-profile situation, there's an earlier article I wrote for that same site--the Mini has progressed since then (as have the cameras) but it may have some interesting nuggets still.

http://www.dvinfo.ne...s/article84.php
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 06:35 AM

I would really love to watch the spot Charles, is there anywhere I am still able to download it?
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 08:21 AM

I would really love to watch the spot Charles, is there anywhere I am still able to download it?


Being that Seinfeld and Superman are probably my most favorite real and fictitious characters, respectively (duh), I do have the first "webisode" archived on my computer. There was a second, entitled "Hindsight", that I apparently did not download when it was originally posted. I was quite surprised to learn after all this time that the operator that was behind the camera of this production is the same operator that shares so many of those experiences with us on these forums. Thanks, Charles. Enjoy, Thomas.

Watch "A Uniform Used to Mean Something"

Best,
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#14 Charles Papert

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 01:29 PM

Afton:

I can send you "Hindsight" plus the behind-the-scenes video that also used to be up on the site, if you like.
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Posted 28 October 2005 - 04:14 PM

Afton:

I can send you "Hindsight" plus the behind-the-scenes video that also used to be up on the site, if you like.


Thanks, Charles.

I sent you a PM with information regarding where to send the files.

On a related note, I have a shoot coming up that will be using the Micro35 lens adapter made by RedRock Micro (http://www.redrockmi...om/micro35.html). It's basically a MUCH cheaper version of the Mini35. In fact it's so much cheaper, it does not have an additional mirror or prism to re-flip the image, resulting in an upside-down image being sent to the camera. For sticks or even a dolly, this might be ok, but it's not ok for Steadicam.

My initial solution is to just mount the camera on the sled upside-down. This wouldn't be all that hard for this specific setup since they're using the DVX100. I have to use a weight cage anyway, so in theory I can just mount the whole thing upside-down.

I guess I'm asking if anyone might know of a better solution. I have the Master Elite Sled and Greenscreen monitor which has no flipping ability. Unforunately, the way it mounts doesn't allow me to just turn it upside down with out having its view be completely obstructed. I don't have any sort of intermediate image manipulation device either. For future applications, does such a device exist?

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