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#1 Joshua Gitersonke

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:37 PM

Hey Everyone,
I've been doin Broken Skull Ranch for almost 4 seasons now and this season Iatsi came in to flip the show. A few departments were getting a raw deal. Now we're striking. 51 Minds is trying their best to scab the show. I just wanted to let you guys know. I'm sure some of you will get calls. I would politely ask you all to not fall into their scab calls. We all out on the line would appreciate the solidarity.
Thank you all!
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#2 Afton Grant

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 01:05 AM

Just want to clarify, as I'm not familiar with this production.  The show is currently non-union.  IATSE has come in to try to make it go union.  You are non union?  And you wish for the show to remain non union?


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#3 Joshua Gitersonke

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:35 AM

No I'm in the union and have been for 6 years. The union came and the show is possibly going to flip, which would be nice. What kind of weird reasoning would it be for me to want it to stay non union? Also why did this get moved to legal.?
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#4 Afton Grant

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 10:36 AM

Joshua, you seemed to get quite defensive at my questions.  You PM'd me asking why I ask such silly things publicly (my name is Afton, not Aston, btw).  The answer is your original post was public.  This is a community forum.  It's what we do.  I was merely asking for clarification.  I found your initial post a little unclear so before I responded to it directly I wanted to make sure I had everything straight.  This would be to the benefit of the rest of the forum.  I apologize, but I don't know you.  I don't know if you're a union member or a newbie.  I don't know this show.  You've worked on it for four seasons.  I don't see it to be too outrageous for me to think that perhaps you're not a union member.  I guess it just confused me that you were taking such a hard union stance (striking, calling out scabs) after having worked on this non union show for so long.  And I'm not being judgmental - we all do non union work here and there.  Also, to address your final question, I didn't move your post.  Someone else did.  But I do agree with where it was filed.  It's a legal/business practice discussion.  This is where it belongs.  Again, my apologies for any confusion.


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#5 Alec Jarnagin SOC

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 10:47 AM

Joshua,

 

I too found your originally post very unclear and started to type a post seeking clarification myself but was distracted and alas did not post.  

 

I am also the one who moved the post as I consider all topics about the Union (or Agents) to fall under "Business Practices."  Frankly, we have so many categories that almost nothing belongs in "General Discussion" (and in fact, I move almost all posts away from this category).

 

Thank you for supporting the Union. Good luck.


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#6 Joshua Gitersonke

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:29 PM

Well I guess when I said "we all out on the line". You know picket line, I think it's a bit obvious what was meant. If I was picketing along with everyone I wouldn't want the show to stay non union.
I do know your name is Afton... If you type it into an iPhone it wants to auto correct to Aston. Sorry about that.
Moving something like this to the legal category is burying it because its not an often visited section comparitively. I feel like any of you in the same position would like it to be seen by the most people as possible.
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#7 Charles Papert

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:39 PM

Afton Martin DB5, love that car...

 

Me, I hit "view new content" when visiting this site and I rarely even notice what category something is placed in. I'd be curious if this wasn't the common practice. Start a poll?!


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#8 Alec Jarnagin SOC

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:40 PM

Joshua,

 

Never heard of you nor has Afton.  We politely point out your message is unclear and that you don't give its subject matter any thought and you default to the lazy "General Discussion" catagory and then you get an attitude!  All categories are read if you are an active participant on this forum when you hit "view new posts."  Again, we volunteer our time to moderate this Forum and be clerical workers.  Sorry you don't agree with our filing, but you obviously didn't take any time to consider where you were putting it (or to phrase your verbiage).  Then you take it out on us?  There is no conspiracy theory here; we are all strong Union supporters (and I've been a member for almost twenty years).  Not trying to "bury" anything.  Relax.


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#9 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:50 PM

I saw a post on FB today from a production coordinator asking if any non union camera guys were looking for work.  I quickly personal messaged her and asked if this was for Broken Skull Ranch, they replied that they didn't know it was a relay for a friend.  I gave here the back story of whats going on and told her to make sure she's not sending anyone over there ,

 

Hang in there Josh,  hopefully 51 Minds and Adam get their shit together and sign the contract so y'all can get back to work  


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#10 Joshua Gitersonke

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:16 PM

I don't think there's a conspiracy theory Alec. I didn't think " General" was lazy either. Just the most traffic for something that is happening at the moment.
Sorry I've never used the view new posts. It's seems like a nice way to see everything.
I've posted on this forum for years. So this wasn't my first post and I'm a sustaining member.
Thanks Rob! 51 Minds is pretty stubborn but now they've been deem unfair because of some things that happened yesterday. So now iatse members aren't allowed to work on any of their shows at all. The union is the point of this post.
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#11 Joshua Gitersonke

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:51 PM

Just like to add 1 thing, on the mobile site for this forum there is no "view new posts" button. I barely ever us a desktop now a days. If it could be added that would be great.
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#12 Afton Grant

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 10:14 PM

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Top right menu option. Been there as long as the mobile site has.
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#13 Joshua Gitersonke

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 10:36 PM

Copy that.
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#14 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 11:06 PM

Afton Martin DB5, love that car...

 

Me, I hit "view new content" when visiting this site and I rarely even notice what category something is placed in. I'd be curious if this wasn't the common practice. Start a poll?!

Ditto. And I support you in your strike! Good luck! I doubt they would call me but if they did they would hear Fuck You just before I hung up.


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#15 Joshua Gitersonke

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 12:27 AM

Thanks Lawrence. 51 minds is fighting it trying to recrew the show. Editing is on strike as well. It's a shame. The producers and director are taking it personally. What they don't get is they already have their insurance. It's a dga show.
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