Jump to content



Photo

Archos AV500


  • Please log in to reply
35 replies to this topic

#1 Erwin Landau

Erwin Landau

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 1699 posts
  • TBD

Posted 02 September 2005 - 03:48 AM

I finally made my mind up to buy the Archos AV 420...

Just went to there website: www.archos.com...

And they already did the next leap into the 500 series... check it out.

What now?

Erwin "confiused and again left in the dust" Landau
  • 0

#2 Ramon Engle

Ramon Engle

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 506 posts
  • Atlanta

Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:31 PM

Erwin I've been trying to decipher the ins and outs of all the different verison of personal video recorders. I've come to realize that Archos is one of the few that accepts an analog-in video signal. Do you know if there's a cable that allows you to not use the cradle and plug into the analog signal?

Ramon
  • 0

#3 Edgar Colon

Edgar Colon

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 32 posts
  • Bayamon, Puerto Rico

Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:41 PM

Try Fred Davis @ Production Cable Services.com
I almost sure that he's working with that type of cables for those recorders already

fred@productioncableservices.com

Hope it helps

Edgar
  • 0

#4 David Allen Grove

David Allen Grove

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 891 posts
  • Los Angeles, California,

Posted 03 September 2005 - 09:29 PM

I would get Fred to make you a power/video cable.
In the meantime though.. for $19.95 this will work.

http://archos.com/pr...prw_500671.html

Posted Image
  • 0

#5 Ramon Engle

Ramon Engle

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 506 posts
  • Atlanta

Posted 04 September 2005 - 10:14 AM

Here's yet another contender to throw into the mix.

http://ovideon.com/c...tegory_Code=PMD

While it's memory is limited at 5GB
It uses an advanced type of screen known as OLED(Organic Light-emitting Diode).
http://www.webopedia...ERM/O/OLED.html

In addition it has a built-in TV Tuner so if you ever need an addional monitor, albiet tiny, you'll have a back up to put in the directors hands.
This is nice, is comes with 2 Li-ion batts.


Ramon
  • 0

#6 Jamie Hammond

Jamie Hammond

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 91 posts
  • Bedford Uk

Posted 04 September 2005 - 02:05 PM

Hi Erwin,
Sometimes you just gotta jump in technology moves so bloody fast these days, bought my 420 yesterday, played with it today looks great. My few concerns are 1 finding a decent case that has a viewable window in the front (as that little screen is just crying out to get a whack) and 2 finding a smaller remote control. The one they pack with it is huuuugggeeeee. Oh and a big wedge of velcro as I think thats the only way Im gonna get that strapped to me Master Elite.

Good Luck

J :P
  • 0

#7 David Allen Grove

David Allen Grove

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 891 posts
  • Los Angeles, California,

Posted 04 September 2005 - 03:19 PM

I use an old Cd jewel case (cut slightly bigger than the screen itself) and velcrod it to the archos for protection. It's not pretty but it's much safer.

This case looks ok.. although, it doesn't look like it has a clear plastic protective window cover.

http://archos.com/pr...prw_500660.html
Posted Image
  • 0

#8 Brad Smith

Brad Smith

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 133 posts
  • Sydney, Australia

Posted 04 September 2005 - 05:45 PM

Anybody tried one of these?

http://www.gdbint.co...uct.asp?pID=188


No screen but looks ideal.

Another link for US

http://www.broadcast...98399#ModelInfo
  • 0

#9 Ramon Engle

Ramon Engle

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 506 posts
  • Atlanta

Posted 04 September 2005 - 08:05 PM

Gee whiz, $5,500.00 for that mini DVR! You'd think they're making it for the film industry. It does record in 720x480. But holy cow that's expensive.

R
  • 0

#10 Tom Wills

Tom Wills

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 385 posts
  • Philadelphia, PA

Posted 04 September 2005 - 09:16 PM

And to think it doesn't even include the CompactFlash cards it needs to work. :P
  • 0

#11 thomas-english

thomas-english

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 1165 posts
  • UK

Posted 06 September 2005 - 05:30 AM

From simply looking at the spec differences

the DVR AV500 stores 100gb whilst the 420 only 20 Gb

The Mpeg-4 live video encoding on the 420 seems to be of limited datarate (SVCD) whilst the 500 the mpeg4 can be selected up to ?near DVD quality? No indication of the actuall data rates is included but its implying a maximum estimated 2.6 Mbps on the 420 and 6 Mbps on the 500 . i.e. The image quality on the 500 can be loads better. Although their idea of ?near dvd quality? could be half to a third those datarates.

The 420 is 280g whilst the 500 is 315g

The ?pod? or docking on the 500 seems to have video pass through. This could be a problem if your wanting to loop your out video back onto your sled. It would have to be disabled to avoid feedback. Whilst I have never used an Archos I would imagine wanting to put the video signal in from the sled and then out back onto the same connector. That way I could turn the camera off and press play and the playback would immediately play on my monitor and transmitter without having to re wire anything. Correct me if I am wrong please.
  • 0

#12 thomas-english

thomas-english

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 1165 posts
  • UK

Posted 07 September 2005 - 12:23 AM

sorry for not thinking, the av loop through would enable you to put the archos at the top of your rig between camera and sled, negating the need for a VDA.
  • 0

#13 charlesneufeld

charlesneufeld

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 170 posts

Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:44 PM

Hey Guys,

I just purchased a 420. Lopped off the connector to the docking station and put a 5-pin lemo for my PRO (vid in-out). It's everything I could want!.....so far. I just need to figure a way for a remote start/stop.

~C
  • 0

#14 Jamie Hammond

Jamie Hammond

    Advanced Member

  • Sustaining Members
  • 91 posts
  • Bedford Uk

Posted 14 September 2005 - 07:13 AM

Hey Charles,
Sounds good, I just bought a car charger and then bought the reverse (car end) part and connected that to a hirose. Although its only power, I use the travel cable for picture/audio. It works great on my elite and can plug straight into a digibeta or HD when shooting on sticks. Also didn't need to savage the cradle either. All I need now is a nice weather resistant cover with a viewable window....any ideas. Oh yeah and in regard to the remote thing, I remember having a learning remote control watch by casio a few years back, maybe that would do for a small on/off remote although probably a little to fiddly.

C Ya

J

:rolleyes:
  • 0

#15 Fred Davis

Fred Davis

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 142 posts
  • Pasadena, CA

Posted 14 September 2005 - 11:32 AM

I would get Fred to make you a power/video cable.
In the meantime though.. for $19.95 this will work.

http://archos.com/pr...prw_500671.html

Posted Image

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I've been modifying the Travel Cable Kit by butt-splicing a leg to 5-pin LEMO, into a "Y" cable
Power/video breakout.
Klugie, but workable. Playback is comprimised due to seperate connectors used by the Archos for video in/vid out ("W" cables?! Ick!)
  • 0




Paralinx LLC

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

GPI Pro Systems

Engineered Cinema Solutions

Wireless Video Systems

BOXX

PLC Electronics Solutions

Varizoom Follow Focus

PLC - Bartech

IDX

rebotnix Technologies

Boland Communications

Ritter Battery

SkyDreams

Omnishot Systems

Teradek

Betz Tools for Stabilizers