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#1 Justin Besser

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:28 AM

Trying to get the Tally running from my PRO Cinelive into my Cinetronic Gen2 (wired for tally to 8pin)

Had a Tally cable (sensor & led) + Monitor Cable (8pin lemo) made by Terry West

-plug the tally cable into the sled and shining a light onto the sensor the LED lights up.

-plug the monitor cable and shine the light into the sensor LED still lights up on the top but no tally being shown at the monitor ..

anyone having an issue with it?

what would be the correct/best way to troubleshoot to identify the problem in the chain?


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#2 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:31 AM

Did you check the tally settings in the menu? Also, it's silly to ask but I will anyways, did you specifically order the Tally mod on your monitor when you bought it?
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#3 Justin Besser

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 03:51 PM

Tally is enabled in the menu
And the tally mod was ordered with the monitor

-How would I make sure the tally voltage is getting through the sled without buying some sort of breakout cable?

-pulling the lemo connector apart the wires seem to all be connected

-how would I check if the tally has been wired to the 8pin or to the 2 pin on the monitor?


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#4 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 04:10 PM

http://www.gpiprosys...m/Cine-Live.pdf

According to the CineLive Pinout, you should be able to read voltage on a multimeter by checking pins 7 and 8 of the monitor connector. I don't have the CineLive electronics, is there a "tally level" or sensitivity pot somewhere?

My endeavors with Chris at Cinetronic and the custom tally mod on my Pro2 electronics found that the monitor is expecting to see between 2v-24v. The only way to test the monitor is to generate that voltage and apply it to the proper pins.

Try testing the sled first, that's probably the safer of the 2 at home procedures.
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Posted 10 March 2014 - 05:13 PM

Remove the backpanel of the monitor and check the wiring. You know where the cables are going from the Cinetronic 2 pin tally connector...

Also perform a factory reset of the monitor in the menu.
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#6 Justin Besser

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:55 PM

Talked through checking the sled and cables with chad from Pro (fantastic help as always) there is no problem in the wiring from the sled to the monitor (checked with continuity on a multimeter) so I am guessing it is something within the monitor..

I removed the back panel and as the wiring is underneath some IC boards I can see what is actually wired..

Would it be safe to assume if I apply voltage across pin 7(tally) and pin8 (ground) on the monitor I should see the tally light up?
Does an input need to active to see this?
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#7 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 07:04 PM

In theory, you could stick 2 wires in the female pins 7&8 of the Monitor connector on the Gen2 and touch the leads to a 9v battery to trigger tally. Polarity is critical, so make sure you're certain about the pins.

Edited by Mike Germond, 12 March 2014 - 07:05 PM.

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#8 Justin Besser

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 07:25 PM

Chris (cinetronic) if your listening I would really love if you chimed in on this..
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#9 chris bangma

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:44 PM

You may need to switch 7 and 8 on the lemo.  Or you can take the front of the monitor, and flip the connector over for the tally.


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#10 Justin Besser

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:57 PM

So at the moment pin7 on my sled is wired up as the tally line, my cables were made by terry west who liaised with you about the pin out of the plugs and had them made to that spec and I had sent my monitor back to you to have the tally wired up to the 8pin.. And they are the wrong way?

Ok.. How do I make sure this is the case? Before I have to go and modify anything..
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#11 chris bangma

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 10:16 PM

Open the monitor and flip the connector, this doesnt modify anything.  The monitor was wired according to the pinout from pro, one Cinelive I tested was opposite of what Pro had said.


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#12 Justin Besser

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 10:18 PM

Ok, no worries, thanks I'll give it a go..
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#13 chris bangma

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 10:23 PM

You can also connect a 9 volt battery to the 2 pin lemo, and check that the tally comes on.  Keep in mind that the tally will not show unless you have a video signal.


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#14 Justin Besser

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 10:24 PM

Does that mean the tally is wired to both the 8 pin and 2 pin?
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#15 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:06 PM

Test the monitor first, then Change the cable, not the monitor, my 2 cents
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