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#1 Dennis Hingsberg

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 08:31 PM

Hi,

 

Anyone have any suggestions to replace the SD monitor on the Flyer 24LE?

 

What i'm real curious about is what you do with the existing cable with mega-connector on the end that normally powers up the monitor and provides the video feed..   you guys hack this apart and add your own connectos - or pull it out completely and re-fit with your own cable and new connectors?

 

Any insight would be great.

 

Cheers,.


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#2 Dennis Hingsberg

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 09:37 PM

Anyone?


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#3 James Puli

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:04 PM

Theres a few posts about this already, but they're kind of old AND I've actually just done this to my Flyer LE. 

 

Yes, the cable through the post DOES work for HD-SDI (my techos didn't think it would, but I proved them wrong - thanks to others

here on the forum who said it worked!!). Just may need to change the BNC connector at the top and obviously add one to the bottom. 

 

We chopped the "mega connector" off and put a BNC for video and a 4pin xlr for 12v power to the new monitor. 

If your new monitor doesn't have a 4pin xlr just add what ever power connector works with it. 

 

I added the Marshall 6.5inch Transreflective screen which seems to be working great with the rig. And is much better then the 

crappie monitor that came with it. 

 

Hope it helps! 

 

JP


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#4 Dennis Hingsberg

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

James I'm thankful for your post. This is what I thought but you know its always good to check what others have done. I also heard that the cable would work for SDI signal, however I found a guy in the USA that builds very thin SDI cables for me to custom length,  so I am thinking to go that route.

 

As for chopping off the mega connector, I think that is he best solution. I'm worried of course if I ever sell it someone will say "It's been hacked apart so it's only worth $5 now... lol)

 

I love the Flyer LE, it fits a very wide range of cameras.


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#5 James Puli

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 06:16 PM

Lol hacked apart.... If anything you've improved it!
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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:16 PM

Hi James,

 

Would you mind posting pictures of the way you have rigged your new monitor to the Flyer? I am considering doing the same and would like to see an example of one that has been done successfully.

 

Thank you!


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#7 James Puli

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:44 PM

We literally unscrewed the old one and screwed the new one in! It's that easy.

Will take some pics next week when my job finishes!

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#8 Kevin Stiller

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 05:10 PM

We literally unscrewed the old one and screwed the new one in! It's that easy.

Will take some pics next week when my job finishes!

JP

 

I meant the wiring, haha. I should have been more specific. 


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#9 Dennis Hingsberg

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 06:57 PM

yeah i'd love to see some pics too... 

 

anyone care to list some decent monitors for consideration?


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 11:09 PM

Hi Dennis,

 

Daylight viewability is probably a major consideration for you in choosing your monitor. If so the monitors get relatively expensive even at the lower end. A few of us who either have a Flyer or a Zephyr have gone with the Marshall 651STX 3G-SDI. Nebtek has the Solar HD. I just checked the Nebtek line and it appears they have a newer version of the Solar that maybe priced right. Not sure as their site isn't coming up at the moment. At the higher end you could be looking at Cinetronic or Transvideo but the weight of these is most likely too much for the Flyer in terms of getting the rig to balance. 

 

There is a Marshall 7" that some people are using but I don't have experience with it and it doesn't have the daylight viewability of the 651STX.


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#11 Osvaldo Silvera SOC

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 12:16 AM

http://www.steadicam...showtopic=19883

 Take your pick


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#12 Nelson Villamil

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 08:00 PM

Hi  Guys.

 

James, Osvaldo,  Andrew,  always helping everyone, thanks.

Just wanted to share another link that also tried this MODIFICATION

Post Flyer LE wiring.


http://www.steadicam...ic=14427&page=2


John E Fry, has a Flyer LE for a new monitor.

I also want to see the pictures, each customization is very interesting for everyone.


Just my two cents.


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#13 Dennis Hingsberg

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 07:37 PM

Thanks Andrew, James, Nelson and others for your input..


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#14 Louis Puli SOC

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 08:15 PM

Hi Dennis 

Here is a few stills of our HD Flyer upgrade .

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#15 Zoltan Jonas

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:28 PM

That looks very neat Louis, good job!

 

I used to regularly fly a Flyer before I got my Zephyr. Of course it only had the junk SD monitor, with that DIN(?) plug feeding it both power and video. You can fix this problem non-destructively, if you're adamant of preserving the original state of the rig. Simply find a female for the power/video cable for the DIN plug, and then extract, from the respective pins, the power and video sources into what ever connector interface you need - I had a bullet plug for power, and, of course, a BNC plug for video.

 

I'd love to post a photo, but I don't think I ever took one, and obviously I haven't had access to this particular rig since I've had the Zephyr.

 

Also, I think there was always some instability somewhere along the signal path - most likely in the adapter cable itself that made a digital signal very unreliable. I was glad to see that idea worked in theory at least, and judging by your own solution, in practice as well, just depending on the workmanship.


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