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#1 PeterAbraham

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 04:34 AM

Good morning,

I seek hard data for a proof list for a client. If you work live television and use a wireless system, I'd like to know what show and what system. I need to prepare real world information to use in a discussion that is brewing on a show I'm on. Let's keep the technology fairly current by saying if you currently shoot live or have shot live in the last 12 months, list the device and show.

Just to be VERY clear, this is shows where your live camera is cut against other cameras. If you use a wireless system for Director/ Production monitoring and your cameras is not cut against other live cameras, well, that may be a topic for another thread but it's not the info I need to gather.

If you've encountered positives, negatives, tech support notables and other issues ( reasonable power drain, immense power drain, etc ) please do articulate. But first and formost I ask posters in here to start their reply as I do below.

Many thanks !!

Best to all,
Peter Abraham, S.O.C.
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So, this Wowsa Wireless system, it would have rocked if it did exist back when I shot the Primetime Emmy Awards in late 2001...blah blah.

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#2 Martin Stacey

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 06:19 AM

My regular live setup. Grass Valley LDK w/ Gigawave HD-Link OX system mounted on my stripped down MK-V Evolution or Nexus or Lite depending on what I have hired out where at any given time. Full telemetry with a 1-2 frame delay which requires the soundie to kick in delay on his wireless mics when I have a presenter or interview come to air on screen but that is just a push of a button on his desk after setting up a lip sync at the start of the day. 

I use a Libec LC9Pro zoom demand with a modified soft cable and my own home built tally to transmit to a receiver above my monitor off a light sensor on the handle tally led.

Beautifully lightweight system which is extremely robust signal wise with a rock solid signal many hundreds of metres from the reciever.

I regularly use this in live situations with up to 16 cameras operation with up to 8 wireless cameras in the mix.

The company I work for is heavily invested in wireless camera technology owning approximately 30 of these systems.

 

Feel free to pm me and pick my brain as I am senior cam for them and use these cameras daily.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

 

 

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#3 JobScholtze

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 09:33 AM

The Voice of Holland / Sytycd / Holland Got Talent / Idols / Popstars , i shoot them all with the Thompson LDK 8000 on my Nexus rig. Sports / concerts / and other " outside " events, its all Sony P1 with a LINK system. But now Thompson also come out with a p1 kind of camera


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#4 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 01:42 PM

When I was up in NYC, I think I briefly showed you the Sony INCAM system from VisLink that I use at NBC Sports in Orlando. It uses the Sony 2400 as a base and the swappable side panel adds 1lb to the camera. It interfaces with the standard VisLink Rx equipment and receives signal from their standard Data Tx equipment. We use it daily on a permanent installation into the facility with tally, full telemetry, no breakup, and about a 1ms delay. We don't need to delay our mics to cut it with the Fiber cameras. It's a brilliant, sexy little piece of gear. But it does not come cheap!! sony2400-incam.jpg

Edited by Mike Germond, 26 September 2013 - 01:45 PM.

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#5 Andrew Ansnick

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:36 PM

Currently working on several different shows with the Sony P1 and Link HD transmitter supplied by AVS. It's nice, compact, and lightweight, though very power hungry. A 90wh battery lasts about 35mins. Their camera system and service is top notch and it is a delight to fly everyday.

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#6 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:44 AM

P1 and the AVS Link on a wide variety of shows cut live to broadcast.  At least current as of six months ago when I injured my knee.  No problems that I can recall at all. Power is an issue as Andrew said but my batteries are relatively new.


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#7 JobScholtze

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:58 AM

Sony p1 and now the new thompson p1 like makes the LINK one of the needed systems.


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#8 Dom Jackson

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:35 PM

Sony P1 Boxx Meridian link Bullet Camera control check out showreel at www.dominicjackson.co.uk

All live shows Boxx gives you fully uncompressed 1080 HD  Sony P1 uses regular Sony ocp racking negligible delay only 1 frame through syncroniser.

Used on all UK LE shows this year, works outdoors nothing near it for picture quality and delay


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#9 PeterAbraham

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:45 PM

Great answers one and all, I'm grateful that you're all taking the time to share details. Keep it coming ! I'm compiling a list based on replies to use in my upcoming meeting with Production.

 

Peter


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#10 John atkinson

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:49 PM

Sony P1 with AVS HD Link, Rock solid, but yeah, loves the batteries.  We use B4B 190wh.  Light and powerful!

 

 

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#11 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:00 PM

Sony P-1 with the Link system Built Up by AVS  has become the industry standard because they listened to us operators and built it for steadicam.  HD RF Transmitter, Camera control receiver (Full Telemetry) , Tally and return video,  They made their mounts out of Carbon Fiber and trimmed weight wherever possible.  Oscars, Emmys, Golden Globes, Grammys, Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, Americas Got Talent, The Voice, etc . . . . .

 

That Sony 2400 with the built in RF that Mike Germond posted is pretty cool looking,  I wonder about the weight comparison?

 

Also, Boxx has been making its way into the Live world,  they work great and have been threatening to build a full unit that would incorporate the Camera control unit and return video.  

 

 

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#12 daniel hanit

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:42 AM

Yo Peter,
I use The Link L1500 I bought from Vislink, with the Sony PMW-350 , all mounted on by beloved 20 years old + Steadicam EFP, and Master arm on shows like The Voice, Dancing with the stars, Idol, X factor, Million pound drop, are you smarter than a 5th grader, the Survivor finals, champions league football, and many others here in Israel.
The Vislink customer service is top notch, and the product is simply amazing, with no break ups even when tested in crazy distances from the receiver.
Full telemetry and tally light for sony, as long as many others are supported by the Link.
I use the G-ZOOM zoom and focus handle for my own focus pulls.
It works great with either Bartech or with newer lenses internal focus motors, and it literally made me a much better operator by giving me the best solution for pulling focus and therefore making my shots more creative in many ways.
I also own a steadicam Ultra 1, but I only use it for film and drama with cameras like the Alexa most of the time, but it's a lot less comfortable for live TV shows...

Hope that helps Peter,

Daniel Hanit
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#13 RonBaldwin

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 08:09 AM

Rob...curious, what does the P-1 setup weigh?
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#14 Mike Germond SOC

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:11 AM

That Sony 2400 with the built in RF that Mike Germond posted is pretty cool looking, I wonder about the weight comparison?


It is a novel idea. Great for handheld too!

Here's the data I have for the Sony 2400 INCAM vs. a Sony 1500 w/ VisLink Clip-on Transmitter. Assume all setups are complete with a lens and 2 IDX batteries..

Sony 1500 w/ VisLink Clip-on Tx
21.5lbs

Shadow-V Sled w/ 1500
46.5lbs

Sony 2400 INCAM
17.6lbs

Shadow-V Sled w/ 2400 INCAM
42.6lbs

Using 2 IDX PowerCubes
2hrs 10min life
Low battery @ 1hr 45mins (start seeing long range transmission issues)
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#15 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:08 AM

Rob...curious, what does the P-1 setup weigh?

Good Question

 

I have to weigh it next time I use it

 

I'll ask AVS


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