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#1 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:21 PM

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#2 RonBaldwin

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:46 PM

that's some serious rig flinging!  I want to see that scene to see the framing/accuracy. 


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#3 Brian Freesh

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:30 PM

This was posted before the movie came out.  I kept waiting for this scene but it wasn't in the movie!  It looks like they just cut out of the scene earlier than this fight plays out.  So bummed, really wanted to see if it came together at all.


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#4 Ken Nguyen

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 12:36 AM

This was posted before the movie came out.  I kept waiting for this scene but it wasn't in the movie!  It looks like they just cut out of the scene earlier than this fight plays out.  So bummed, really wanted to see if it came together at all.

All of the swinging moves seem not very solid at start and stop.

Look at all the ends of the moves, the camera didn't come to a solid stop.

Too hard to cut it into scenes.

May only use 1 or 2 seconds (max) in between the swing.


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#5 Afton Grant

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 08:03 AM

So bummed, really wanted to see if it came together at all.

 

You might have just answered your own question.


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#6 Brian Freesh

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 08:19 AM

Not at all. There could be any number of reasons the footage wasn't used, least of all how well it was shot or edited (in my experience watching movies).  But they have other coverage of the scene, so if they used any of that steadicam shot at all I expected it to be quick cuts, shorter than the 1-2 second max Ken mentioned. Incidentally, I don't thing solid stops was ever a concern.

 

What I'm pretty sure I do know is that they simply cut the scene shorter.  There is a fight scene at the top of the 3rd act that appears to be this one, but it ends with Damon getting knocked unconscious before they exit the craft. I imagine this was just a longer version of the scene and it was cut for time/pacing.


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#7 Wolfgang Troescher

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 08:42 AM

Perhaps I'm too old, but this hectic Bourne-style editing is too fast, at leat for my taste.
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#8 RonBaldwin

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 11:02 AM

you are not too old...it's just a shame that they have taken tv's cue to spice up bad writing with cuts. 


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#9 Alessandro Ugo

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:17 AM

How cool to see that the real hero is the steadicam operator :)


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#10 Alan G. Kelly

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 12:12 PM

All of the swinging moves seem not very solid at start and stop.

Look at all the ends of the moves, the camera didn't come to a solid stop.

Too hard to cut it into scenes.

May only use 1 or 2 seconds (max) in between the swing.

It's a fight scene in a major motion picture -not a steadicam workshop. 

 

Love that the monitor is off so it's op'ing on skill and instinct. That's exciting.


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#11 Mariano Costa

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 01:15 PM

The swinging and stuff not only looks silly (why not just go hand held or easy rig or whatever, as a viewer, you won't tell anyways). It also looks dangerous, that hit on the second camera's mattebox could easily have gone the wrong way.
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#12 Alan G. Kelly

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:42 PM

The swinging and stuff not only looks silly (why not just go hand held or easy rig or whatever, as a viewer, you won't tell anyways). It also looks dangerous, that hit on the second camera's mattebox could easily have gone the wrong way.

Wow, not trying to start a flame war but have you not worked on a feature before? It may look silly but it's bits and pieces that make up scenes like those and more importantly I'll bet the director asked for it on the rig. All egos and experience aside the set is not a democracy. If the director (and I'm talking a real director) wants whatever on the rig then under most circumstances the answer is 'yes'. 


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#13 Alan G. Kelly

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:55 PM

Besides,  it would be difficult to achieve those extreme dutches at those speeds in any other mode other than a striped down body being craddled and it still wouldn't be the same acceleration, stability or nodal-wise.


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#14 Mariano Costa

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 12:09 AM

Wow, not trying to start a flame war but have you not worked on a feature before? It may look silly but it's bits and pieces that make up scenes like those and more importantly I'll bet the director asked for it on the rig. All egos and experience aside the set is not a democracy. If the director (and I'm talking a real director) wants whatever on the rig then under most circumstances the answer is 'yes'.

Yes, it's not a democracy. But it's not a dictatorship, either. If you are harming yourself or others, step off. Okay, this ludicrous "operating" isn't that dangerous and it's the operator who doesn't seem to care much about him or his surroundings.
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#15 Mikael Kern

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 05:32 AM

Yes, it's not a democracy. But it's not a dictatorship, either. If you are harming yourself or others, step off. Okay, this ludicrous "operating" isn't that dangerous and it's the operator who doesn't seem to care much about him or his surroundings.

 

Sorry, but I don´t see ludicrous, dangerous or careless anywhere in this.


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