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#1 Erwin Landau

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 06:11 PM

Found it... (Photo by Jim Muro, ~1995)


The Picture to the topic in General discussion. Rig on "Any Given Sunday".

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#2 guillermo nespolo

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 06:42 PM

MAN WHERE U GET THOSE WONDERFULL PICS........
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#3 Erwin Landau

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 06:55 PM

Then and.... NOW. (Camera and PRO by Charles Papert)

Charles, remember that one "Big Dumb Face" (January 2001)

I would like to see the newest incarnation of your Camera onces it's done...

Again check "General Discussion" Any Given Sunday....


I haven't seen Jimmy's newest version of the SK running rig since he put the PRO Gimbal and the PRO Lite on it...


Erwin" Had to go through 1000 pictures to find that one..."Landau

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#4 Charles Papert

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Posted 04 February 2004 - 08:32 PM

It's really bizarre that Erwin has more pictures of ALL of our rigs than we do ourselves...!

"Big Dumb Face"...now there was a music video for you. Concept: musicians shot against white cyc. Run around them with Steadicam avoiding shooting off cyc. Hmm. Love to have seen the treatment that sold that one.

Erwin, if I remember correctly you came to help me with my gear (this is before Erwin bought a rig, folks; I think he logged more unpaid set hours than I've had paid) and they ended up hiring you as a loader?!
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#5 Erwin Landau

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Posted 05 February 2004 - 01:17 AM

I was absolutely certain I would never own my personal rig... ever.... that's why I took pictures for my "Wish I could afford that Stuff" Album. Remember the first Workshop... I made about 300 pictures...

I still have a Still Camera sitting on my cart with the sticker on it "Please knock yourself out and take as many pictures as you like"... Man, sometimes you end up with pictures... Wow... unfortunately most of them I can't show on this Forum...

Big Dumb Face: I also remember all that lighting and Grip equipment that they placed stratigically behind you, to make certain you would trip, and there was no spotter to be seen... Running around them trying to stay inside the Procenium not run into the shot of the other Camera (or were there two 435's that the were running at 80 and 150 fps) and jumping over the various C-Stands... Oh also they wanted you to wear these Surgical Covers over your shoes on top of that...

The Video was featured in the "Film and Video" mag back then...

Charles, we co-owned my first PRO Lite Battery system together (and that was all I owned back then, exept maybe for an Arm Post or the like).
The Loader had big issues to load your SL-Cine mags, she just could not do it... so they asked if I ever loaded these mags... They got me a second Bag and I ended up loading a couple of the Long throught mags and got paid for the whole day... (The curse or the blessing of an ex-AC I guess...), That is the reason I don't have any pictures from you, actually operating on that shoot...

To this day I end up on shows were I have to show the AC how to load a Steadimag or rebuild the Camera into Steadimode... you would think that they would brush up on that once it is established that a Steadicam day is comming up...
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#6 Charles Papert

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Posted 05 February 2004 - 04:44 AM

I think my favorite was during night shoot football scenes on "Crazy/Beautiful" where I was running around like a freak down one end of the field with a bunch of other cameras shooting with absurdly long lenses and every assistant we had losing their heads (in other words, business as usual on a Shane Hurlbut show!) If I remember correctly, the loader was pulling focus for me(!) inbetween running back and forth to other cameras. I ended up threading the 2C a couple of times instead of waiting for him to get back, with vest and arm tucked behind back. Obviously a pretty easy camera to thread but I never want to take on that additional responsibility on a union job in case something happens to the film--what a weird free-for-all, that night. Oh, the humanity...
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Posted 05 February 2004 - 07:02 PM

To this day I end up on shows were I have to show the AC how to load a Steadimag or rebuild the Camera into Steadimode... you would think that they would brush up on that once it is established that a Steadicam day is comming up...

Or the A.C. on an HD job that asks if you have a downconverter and also tells you that you'll be flying an ARRI 6x6 studio mattebox because he didn't order a clip-on (even though steadicam was no surprise). Huh? No, I don't have a downconverter, and no, I don't think I'll be flying that mattebox. After straightening all that out the rig is up and ready for camera rehearsal he hooks his cloth tape measure to the side of the camera. Me: "What are you doing?" A.C.: "Getting focus marks." Me: "Where's your metal tape measure?" A.C.: "I don't like them." DP: "Hold the frame. Why are you floating around so much?" Me: "I have a measuring tape hooked to the side of the camera." DP: "Why?" Me: "I have NO idea." DP looks at the AC and rolls his eyes. That's just about how well that day went....
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#8 Afton Grant

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 10:58 AM

I was watching some incredible running shots recently in "Titanic" and "Strange Days" (the latter of which is nothing short of phenomenal). I believe James Muro was the op on both of those, but correct me if I'm wrong. I've been told he used a special lightweight rig and camera to enable him to run. I'm curious to know what a setup like that might look like. Does anyone have any pictures they could share?

I'm also curious, since it's the op's responsibility to provide the special rig, is it also their responsibility to provide the customized camera, or do they make extreme lightweight cameras available to rent for purposes such as that?

Thanks as always -
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#9 Erwin Landau

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 02:51 PM

That's Jimmy alright.
Scary precise, over the top intense, always on the money...

If you want to see some great stuff check out the following special edition DVD behind the scenes:

Any Given Sunday (great in camera editing of the scene, you can tell he wanted to be a director)
Heat
Open Range
Predator2

Also the famous shot in "Mighty Quinn", but I think that was done with the full size 3A.

I believe he used his Lightweight rig for the first time on "True Lies" (1994/5). At that time it was an SK prototype (didn't look anything like the production model, only one or two made) with the magnesium Robings SL camera prototype. With again SK arm and Vest (prototypes).

Even though he's officially not operating anymore he still pulls it out and does some magic with it from time to time, now as not credited operator but renamed DP: J. Michael Muro. (Open Range, Crash, Roll Bounce and Flicka... I believe).

I think he crashed his rig. His new set up is a PRO Lite running rig with LCD monitor, running Hytrons or Dionics and a BFD (I think), still uses the SK arm and vest and the Robings Camera.

Usually production uses a SL Cine 2C for such shots... I think that the Arri 235 would make for a great running rig camera even though it's not as light odf a camera as you would think, I had it on my rig and the total weight with 400' Steadimag, S-4, Preston motor topped the scale at 20 lbs. It did wonders on the Island, have to check with David Emmerichs...

A couple of operators own there own cameras, if you can afford it and you can get it on the show, more power to you, but usually production rents it from a rental house for this specific shots.

Hope that helps.

Erwin

PS: I posted a picture of the SK with the Robling camera a while ago, check the archives.

PSS: And I still like to answer to people that I know the full name off... is it that hard to sign your real name? Nothing to be ashamed of... is it?
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#10 Erwin Landau

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 02:53 PM

Ops...

scratch the last remark...

The sigature does not appear while you replying....

Sorry, it's been a while since I posted..

Erwin
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#11 Erwin Landau

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 03:06 PM

Here my old Pix:

from the Archives

http://www.steadicam...hp?showtopic=12
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#12 Erwin Landau

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 03:10 PM

Found it:

Jimmy's SK:

http://www.steadicam...p?showtopic=187
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#13 Afton Grant

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 04:06 PM

Hey, thanks, Erwin! The catalog of gadgets and wizardry is seemingly endless in this niche of the production industry.

It's been mentioned before, but you yourself seem to have a great library of photos. I'm wondering if there's any sort of online portfolio you have of them. I checked out your site and definitely wanted to see more than the small thumbnails on the front page.

Formally introduced :D ,
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#14 Erwin Landau

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 03:11 PM

Hi Afton,

Maybe in the next incarnation of my Website... I'll talk to my wife (my Webmaster)

You can see more pix in the Archives under Journals (page 4):

http://www.steadicam...ilter=all&st=45

Or on www.steadicenter.com:

http://www.steadicen...s.php?cat_id=53

Or on www.crewpix.com

Fly safe,

Erwin
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