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#1 Benedict Heinzl

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

Hello,

 

This is my first post after reading here for about 2 years and I'm overwhelmed by this community.

So first of I am 20 years old and love framing the best shot I can imagine. 

My whole family is in the Film/Broadcast Business and so the infected me with the passion for moving images. I've been on sets since I can remember and I did my first short as I was 9. Meanwhile I work in a theater and my position is called "Multimedia" (If I tell that to someone who has no theater experience, they have no idea what I'm doing). Back to topic.

Since I'm 16 I do little film projects. Music videos. Some corporate stuff and so on.

I am facinated by Steadicam since I first saw a operator on set where my mother did the costumes.

On the first project where the budget allowed it I rented a glidecam to try that "feel". I loved it from the first moment.

 

Now to my question:

 

I got the mail with the information about the next Gold Workshop in Istanbul and I was completely exited!

In the registration form it says: "The requirement for students is simply that they have camera experience ...."

Would you say that the amount of experience I have is enough after what I told you?

 

I'm pretty sure that Steadicam is what I really want to do and need your help to decide my next steps.

I also thought about buying a used Zephyr but after reading here for this time I think the workshop is the better use of money at this point.

 

Thank you all for what I already learned from simply reading your correspondence.

And thank you in advance for even thinking about my problems.

 

Sincerely,

Benedict Heinzl

 

PS: I already read the Operators Handbook cover to cover.

 


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#2 Mike McGowan SOC

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:50 PM

Unless the workshop is different from all the rest, you are totally qualified to take it.  In my class in 1998, there were several film newbies and at least one operating newbie (me).  It's designed to teach you about the steadicam, how it works, what it can do and give you an idea about whether or not you might be interested in doing it for a living.

 

Take it and enjoy!


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#3 Evrim KAYA

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:59 PM

Hello Benedict,

 

I think you’re ready to take a workshop. What it says in the registration form is to remind you that a steadicam operator is first and foremost a camera operator. But you don’t need to be a senior camera operator to take the workshop. You need however to know about framing, operating, the feel of camera beforehand which I think you already have.

 

But I have to remind you; taking a workshop will not transform you into a steadicam operator. The workshop is like an initiation. It will give you a chance to get to know the art from teacher/operators and it will give you necessary skills in order to continue to exercise on your own. You’ll be like a Padawan coming out of the workshop.

 

You made a wise decision by not buying a rig yet. Attending a workshop is indeed a better way to spend your money.

 

I live and work in Istanbul; I’ll be visiting the workshop so I guess I’ll see you there. If you need info about the city, you can PM me.

 

 

Welcome to the community and fly safe.


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#4 Daniel Stilling DFF

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

It's really refreshing to see someone worried about education before equipment. You are absolutely right about taking the workshop before buying a rig.
Beware though, you will love it so much, you will from the day you finish the workshop embark in a tough but rewarding road, and who knows where that will take you?

Go for it, have fun!
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#5 Benedict Heinzl

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:36 AM

Thank you for the response.

 

If there are places free I'll definitely take the workshop.

Thank for for the offer Evrim.

 

:D


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#6 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:38 AM

one more workshop you might be interested in, since you are from Austria?

 

http://artemis-hd.com/index.php?id=12

 

 

May 14. - 17. 2013
Sachtler Academy / Germany

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#7 Benedict Heinzl

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:54 AM

That's great info about the workshop in Muinch. But the website you're linking says 14-17 May 2012 (a typo?)

 

It's great to have an alternative so near but I'd ask whats the better choice? 

The price difference is pretty enormous...


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#8 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:05 PM

Servus,

 

yes, typo, look on the right side where it says 2013, call them!

 

or:

 

artemis_info@me.com


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#9 RobinThwaites

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:18 PM

Hi Benedict
You are perfectly qualified and we have a place for you. I will email an application tomorrow or you can download one from the website.
Robin
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#10 Evrim KAYA

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:31 PM

I think the price difference is more about the included accommodations. What I understand from Sachtler’s site is the hotel and meals is not included in the price whereas Tiffen-Istanbul workshop is all included.


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#11 Jens Piotrowski SOC

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:03 PM

I can only speek for the Sachtler/Artemis workshop. It is a very hands on small group intesive workshop. Curt Schaller, is the lead instructor and the designer of the Artemis line of stabilizer, he is the nicest guy and a great instructor. He lives and breathes Cameras and Stabilizers. He can answer all your questions you might have. Contact:  artemis_info@me.com

 

workshop content:

 

http://www.artemis-h...ays_WS_2012.pdf

 

 

http://artemis-hd.com/index.php?id=165

 

http://artemis-hd.com/index.php?id=277

 

"4 day basic workshop camera stabilizer systems

• Workshop fee is 1050.-€ net - plus 19% VAT.
   Note: If you got a VAT number, you do not have to pay VAT extra.

• Plus 50.- € catering flat rate,
   incl. second small breakfast, lunch and in the afternoon coffee and cake."

 

The price is very reasonable in my opinion.....you will know after the 4 days if Steadicam operating is for you or not. It will give you the basic knowledge to make informed decisions on your future.

 

Gruesse.


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#12 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:32 PM

Now with the manufacture sponsored workshops if you are upright, breathing and have a valid credit card you're qualified to take the workshop. Some Manuafacturing based workshops are also sales events (its like getting that free vacation but you have to listen to their time share sales speech) and others are teaching to teach
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#13 Libor Cevelik

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

Now with the manufacture sponsored workshops if you are upright, breathing and have a valid credit card you're qualified to take the workshop. Some Manuafacturing based workshops are also sales events (its like getting that free vacation but you have to listen to their time share sales speech) and others are teaching to teach

Hello Eric,

 

can you please point us to some non manufacture workshops ? 

 

Thank you Libor


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#14 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:50 PM

Now with the manufacture sponsored workshops if you are upright, breathing and have a valid credit card you're qualified to take the workshop. Some Manuafacturing based workshops are also sales events (its like getting that free vacation but you have to listen to their time share sales speech) and others are teaching to teach

Hello Eric,

 

can you please point us to some non manufacture workshops ? 

 

Thank you Libor

 

Forum Sponsor  "The Stabilizer workshops" is one of them.  I've heard good things about the Artimis workshop


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#15 Libor Cevelik

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

 

Now with the manufacture sponsored workshops if you are upright, breathing and have a valid credit card you're qualified to take the workshop. Some Manuafacturing based workshops are also sales events (its like getting that free vacation but you have to listen to their time share sales speech) and others are teaching to teach

Hello Eric,

 

can you please point us to some non manufacture workshops ? 

 

Thank you Libor

 

Forum Sponsor  "The Stabilizer workshops" is one of them.  I've heard good things about the Artimis workshop

Thank you Eric, I appreciate your advice ..  


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