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#1 SmoothRig

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 11:52 PM

I have a dilemma with my rate and a client. I have a producer client who has been working on some lower budget projects and to compensate for their budget they have treated my entire rate as labor so that my overtime is higher. Now, this same producer has given me recommendations to other producers and they are now paying my labor rate at a much higher price then I normally ask. Do you think I should tell the producers who are willing to pay my newly increased labor rate to pay me less and just kick it to the rig? Or do you think it?s ok to have my labor be as high as they are willing to pay?
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#2 RobVanGelder

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 12:36 AM

Leave it as it is in my opinion, donĀ“t wake up any sleeping dogs.

Producers are just so happy if they can talk your rate down anyway, which they will do the moment you give them an opportunity.
As long as they accept the situation, keep it as it is.

Only if it is more profitable to get more money for the rig then for your labour which could be beause of certain tax rules, you might change the rates, but never let them know that they paid you "too much" before!

Find a good reason to shift money/ income from labour to gear, like new investments. They accept that more then a "strange" lowering of your daily labour-rate
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#3 thomas-english

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 02:43 AM

The only problem possibility I could see with the retained status quo; If you are competing for a job (or someone unkown to you is competing with you) and their CV/credits are equall/better than yours. The producer may think, this new guy is cheaper and we get more expensive kit for the same money.

This is simply me extrapulating the only worst case scenario. Leave it, you get better overtime!
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#4 Rich Steel

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 04:23 PM

If the new productions are willing to pay the "GOING" rate this should be a wake-up call for you to not under sell your services as an operator.
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#5 TJ Williams

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 04:53 PM

yea Rich I'll wager that you are right and that smoothrig was charging less money than others in his market with similiar gear. It's a pretty unusual producer who doesn't know therates in their market for commonly used gear such as: cameras, cranes, lighting, steadicam etc.... and the usual rates for grips, operators, gaffers etc.
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