What would you share / rent in an emergency
Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:14 PM
I suppose Timi needs to weigh in on this, but I ask our community at large: would you participate in a project here solely made up of a laundry list of those items you own that you would let go of in an emergency?
Just to be very clear. Many folks would not want to post a thing. All well and good. Nobody is judging. But it is a valuable thing to KNOW that if I am in Chicago and my arm is stolen, who has a similar arm and has indicated a willingness to loan or rent it out.
If this flies, it could exist in spreadsheet form. I'll be glad to do the grunt work, because copy / paste takes seconds. Any member here could download the spreadsheet in whatever form it is currently in.
I will be glad to post up a template excel spreadsheet for folks to ponder, comment upon, etc. Once it seems solid, I'd take emailed submissions and combine into one spreadsheet.
In addition to helping each other out in a pinch, it could beg a source of revenue for the gear owner.
Best to all,
Peter Abraham, S.O.C.
Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:32 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:24 PM
Peter, might I also recommend utilizing Google Docs instead of an Excel doc as it's user-editable so it wouldn't necessarily require one single individual to to keep it up to date. Then we could potentially just sticky the link in the Marketplace or something?
Either way, I think this would be a valuable resource for a number of different reasons.
Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:29 PM
You are creating a localized "Shopping list" for people with nefarious motives....
Not sure we need a list, I'm pretty sure that anyone on this board could email or call anyone here and work something out
Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:38 PM
When ever I work interstate I always know / look up a few local Ops just in case something happens, and I tend to send an email to say hi as we'll!. Plus my liking for beer and chatting about all things steadicam lends itself to dinners / nights out with other ops as well if possible ...... Which many of you can vouch for!
Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:04 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:41 PM
As others have touched on already, I like the old fashioned way best. I would like to encourage communication amongst us operators. Right now, I have a good idea of who has what throughout the NYC area, and I'm on at least a friendly phone call basis with just about every single operator around here. I'm confident that if I ever needed to be saved in any way, help is just a few phone calls away. Additionally, as James mentioned, if I am traveling, I'll often reach out to the operators in the area - to just give them a heads up, or even grab a drink. More networking. More friends. More insurance.
The things you learn just by actually talking with someone are amazing. It can help you out now. It can help you out later. It can improve your operating. You can make a friend. It is truly the ONLY solution to the continuous decline in our rates. Communicate!
Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:51 AM
I have in the past and will continue to help other operators with emergency needs on a case by case basis paying it forward for those who have helped me when I needed it in the past. Lack of preparedness however does not constitute an emergency.
It's always appreciated and a pleasure when other ops touch base coming to Vegas and the drinks are almost always on me!
Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:51 AM
I'm pro-information in an emergency. Look, this happened twice yesterday. ( I agree with Alec's post by the way. They needed an experienced Owner/ Op who could handle a large 3D rig )
The other call was from a former Workshop student of mine. I've got over 1,300 people who fit that bill but this guy I did remember. He was in a city and did not have his mounting plate. ( If you've never lost, broken or forgotten a part, you haven't been in Steadicam long enough. It happens. To seasoned professionals. )
Fellow asked if I knew anyone in the city where he was. I gave him two phone numbers off of my cell phone. Did he have time to log into the Forum, put up a post and hope someone in that city saw it? Well no not really. Not at all in fact. He reached out fast because he lacked a list of comprehensive information. If I was in that situation and had the most recent Help Me Out ( HMO™) excel sheet on my laptop or smart phone or printed out, I'd have made the calls directly and saved myself and production valuable time.
One of the people I put him onto got someone else involved and did a drive-by and dude got a mounting plate.
I also love socializing with my fellow creatives. This is about putting out fires, not about drinking alcohol. I was interested in trying to help people put out fires. See, this fellow has borrowed a plate so he could do his day's work and move on with it. ( Having ordered a new plate of course ). He has no time to take the loaning party out for drinks- and sometimes we just don't have that time when on the road.
Fair to say that people initiate ideas and move them ahead without the blessings of the Forum. Anyone interested in sharing such data is more than welcome to email me directly and I will coordinate the effort and share it with those who contact me. The SOA Database is terrific and perhaps the thing to do is work with Jay to make it a more portable document so we can all share there.
Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:46 PM
100% free. The document people get will be locked and uneditable. I figure once compiled it will be easy to add to the group every month or so and do a new bulk email to share the current list. This is a worldwide Steadicam Operator support document- it is by no means meant to be America-centric in use.
Sadly, I only speak English so if you're writing to me with questions by email, please write in English or have your note translated !
Let me know if you're interested.
Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:44 AM
I have had two emergency situations which where helped by the local AC's. One was in The Big Easy when the Ultra1 monitor bracket slipped straight out and slammed to the ground while balancing. Ralph Madison came thru and helped me go through all the brackets with his extra monitor, didn't work out but he tried...
The time was in Orlando at Disney, my gear was picked up from the camera house and somehow was separated, my vest and arm did not make the ride in. Again, the local AC's jumped on the phone to find John Atkinson whom sent out a Masters Arm & Vest until mine arrived later that day via Delta Dash.
Thanks Ralph & John!
There has also been the other side of things when I called a local op that had the exact same Ultra 2 rig and preston HU3. He wasn't willing to loan nor rent out any of his gear... I was floored by this and would never consider that type of approach with another working professional. I have been asked about my rig by someone that had not taken the workshop yet and I politely declined with the provision that I must be there and once they completed the workshop I would consider the possibility. Granted I knew this person prior to the workshop and they actually put my rig on twice for two different jobs that I was there for as a DP.
That said, I hope that I have done the same to help out other ops in a pinch, we are a community and even in the undercutting bastardization of this industry, we are a community and if we do not stick together to keep the rates moving upward instead of downward, we will never keep up with the rising cost of technology and cost of living to maintain a career capable of retiring on.
I'm in, excellent idea!
Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:20 AM
Pay it forward.
Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:56 AM
just this past month I was in need of Kinoflow lights, a zoom recorder and a second bartech unit. Special thanks to Yousheng Tang, Michael Hauer and Brendan Banks