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#1 Alex Kolb

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:31 PM

Hey everybody,

I'm working on a show where they can't get me a wireless tally signal. I have been in a similar situation before, and what they ultimately did was feed me an audio tally through my in ears. So when I was live, there was a tone in my headset. Weird, but at least I didn't have to go wired just for the sake of tally. I know of a few other ops who've done the same.

Unfortunately I have no idea how to create this tone linked to the tally that can be fed into the audio board. The previous station hasn't returned my calls so I can't ask them.

Anybody know how this works? Ideas of any kind are appreciated.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:04 AM

What wireless system are you using for live broadcasting?
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:16 AM

I guess I should have mentioned that. It's an L1310.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 01:13 PM

Perhaps a 2nd monitor helps return feed to the 2nd mon is just as useful as the tally.... Am doing it currently... Provided the engineer could do a return feed on to your camera.... Am doing that without a tally currently....
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:39 PM

BOXX may have a tally system that would work, it's a wireless signal from the studio mounted antennae to your sled. Email Scott Walker at Boxx.
His email is

scott@boxx.tv

I found this video he did on youtube, maybe this would work, but definitely email him.



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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:39 PM

BOXX may have a tally system that would work, it's a wireless signal from the studio mounted antennae to your sled. Email Scott Walker at Boxx.
His email is

scott@boxx.tv

I found this video he did on youtube, maybe this would work, but definitely email him.



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#7 Mohamad Faiz

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:49 PM

Cool thanks for sharing.... But i am kinda concern that the boxx signal will be jammed up if its not studio operation as it is operating in such low frequency... Don't think its suitable for outdoor broadcast , from where i am from they will jam all the rf signals for security reasons....

BOXX may have a tally system that would work, it's a wireless signal from the studio mounted antennae to your sled. Email Scott Walker at Boxx.
His email is

scott@boxx.tv

I found this video he did on youtube, maybe this would work, but definitely email him.



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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:10 AM

A quick email to Scott at BOXX will answer any questions you have. make sure you tell him what venue as he may already know any security measures in place there to provide you with the right frequency system. if it's the olympics, I bet BOXX and Visilink are already the main providers of the wireless HD systems. they're both from the UK I believe.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:04 AM

Thanks for the help guys! I'll be sure to write to BOXX, I think that'd be an excellent solution long-term. The audio "tally" was just a quick fix.

For anybody who may be in a similar situation in the future, here's how we ended up using the audio tally. We rigged an interrupt switch to the vision mixer's tally output for my camera, and ran an XLR with the tone into the interrupt switch. Then we ran another XLR out on the other side and fed that to my wireless in-ears. Thus when the vision mixer was outputting the signal for the tally, it allowed the tone to pass through.

Another solution that we considered (and other ops I contacted used) is to put your tally light (that you couldn't be flying anyways if you can't get a tally feed) on the sound board, and have someone manually cue the tone.

Thanks again for the feedback!
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:16 PM

A quick email to Scott at BOXX will answer any questions you have. make sure you tell him what venue as he may already know any security measures in place there to provide you with the right frequency system. if it's the olympics, I bet BOXX and Visilink are already the main providers of the wireless HD systems. they're both from the UK I believe.



Thank you mr silvera.... I am not from the UK... And i only have this big army jammers parking near to my ob point and jamming any frequencies around eventhough we did register the signal to them.... We never ever had a great signal during liveshow.... Signal was always tearing even though you have 4 antennaes pointing towards you.... Ironically the army had their own crew and was even using the same module and same contractors and their pictures are perfect.... Damn them......
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:46 PM

"Ironically the army had their own crew and was even using the same module and same contractors and their pictures are perfect...""

That's amazing, probably their frequency engineer is having fun blocking everyone except their signals. Hope it works better in the future.
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#12 Mohamad Faiz

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

Hahaha and my engineers been having nightmares for the past 5 years..... How i wish we have those big antennas like the army for rf am sure there isn't any frequency drop in 200km range.... Lol
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