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#1 MarkKaravite

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 07:51 PM

Hey Guys and Gals,

I'm starting a show in a couple weeks with the Epic. I've seen the camera at the rental houses, but I haven't rigged it for Steadicam yet. Considering that I build up a Red One for more weight (with an Arri baseplate), I assume the tiny Epic will need some ballast. We're using a Boxx, so there's a candidate for flying behind the camera. Optimo short zooms are the DP's preference, so that helps a bit. I'm considering putting a Dionic HC on the camera as well.

Any photos or comments about the preferred Epic setup would be greatly appreciated. I've heard about the Epic breakout cable. I'm already investigating the Preston start / stop. What's the best way to feed timecode? I hate having too much spaghetti hanging from the camera, so I'm taking the time now to figure out the cleanest way to deal with cabling, and of course, the best handling setup.

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#2 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:05 PM

Hey Mark!

I've flown it quite a bit with an 11 lb weight plate. The few photos I have of the build don't show it very well because something even as small as a CanaTrans covers up the camera.

The Preston Run / Start cable is not all you need. There's a breakout cable from RED you need that enables you to connect the Preston R/S cable to and you have to have that breakout cable from production or the camera house else you'll waste money on the Preston cable. I'm not trying to knock Preston out of a sale but if you want to borrow my R/S cable I'll loan it to you as I'm booked on something else all during August.

With an Optimo zoom on the front you'll need weight in the rear in the form of a battery and the Boxx or a long dovetail plate to slide back on. For all intent and purpose the Epic weighs nothing.

Maybe you already knew this stuff but hit me up if I can help at all.

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#3 Mike McGowan SOC

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:39 PM

If you are used to using the iris rod bracket and sliding base plate (i do that all the time) and you are just looking for a bit of weight, why not go with a zoom sliding base plate (one of those big 18"? ones).
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#4 Alex Kornreich

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:00 AM

I always request a rod mounted hot swap dual battery plate for counter balance on the back. Put two Dionic HC's and the weight and counterbalance works well. Also means you don't have to run the camera from your sled, which is nice.
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#5 Brant S. Fagan SOC

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:28 AM

Here's my latest build. Felt great, just like a film camera used to feel, except no emulsion smell on reloads!

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#6 Fabrizio Sciarra SOC ACO

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:37 AM

And here's my setup last time I had an Epic on.

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#7 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:58 AM

The Redmote can be used as an on/off remote device if you do not have an on/off cable.Hot swap battery plate and transmitter in the back. And Lock-it box. And monitor. And cappuccino machine:

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#8 William Demeritt

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 12:56 PM

More headroom, Doc!
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#9 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 01:40 PM

More headroom, Doc!



I know, right! We were shooting 5k 1:85 which means zero safety area. DP wanted extra, extra headroom in case booms found their way into the frame (often) so the image could be blown up a bit in post. Hard to rewire instinctual framing habits so I made myself a reminder I often ignored.
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#10 Amando Crespo

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:13 PM

This is the set up and the link with the work.


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#11 James Davis

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:00 PM

This is the set up and the link with the work.


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Tends to be the usual set up for me, although on a job yesterday I made the mistake of allowing the touchscreen monitor to be on a noga arm I didn't think it would be a problem at first...........never again.

The AC and the DP thought it would be a good idea to keep moving the monitor out of position on the noga arm causing me to have to rebalance on a regular basis, not that it was a major issue, but it was getting to be a pain after the 3rd or 4th time.

Edited by James Davis, 10 July 2012 - 06:04 PM.

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#12 Joel San Juan SOC

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 05:14 PM

This is a recent set up with the hot swap, boxx sd, decimator 2, atmos ninja (editor wanted to have a quick offline option), bartech. Didn't have a HD splitter that day so ran the hd signal from the cinetronic to the DIT... wasn't an ideal set up but really nice weight distribution, joy to fly it. Hope this helps

Fly safe
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 08:22 PM

Hi Joel and everyone
Here is a recent setup I had with a Epic .I mounted my Boxx on to the XCS base plate (powered off the rig )Camera powered off the rig .The decimator velcro on the right side of the camera .Flys well .
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#14 Joel San Juan SOC

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:28 AM

Hi Louis,
Thats a slick set up, do you have any trouble with the downtime swapping out the batteries
since its powered from the sled? or can you hot swap on your rig's electronics? :)

Best
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#15 Daniel Stilling DFF

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 08:46 AM

The downtime on the Epic is just over 10 seconds. Even an EX3 takes longer to restart.
Shouldn't be a problem...
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