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#1 Nikk Hearn-Sutton SOC

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 03:21 AM

Im having the damndest time trying to move fluidly on low mode w/my sk2 :angry: is there any way to avoid the battery when changing directions any suggestion on using it on low mode would be great :)
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#2 RobVanGelder


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Posted 01 February 2004 - 09:24 AM

The main problem with most low mode setups is that the arm and it´s post is too close to the rig, and in the switch you can hit the battery or even the camera. This can also be the case in normal mode but when you have to raise the camera to maximum height.

My way to avoid this is a little round bar of aluminium, diametre 2,5 cm/1", approx 12-15 cms long (5-6") with on one side a hole that slides over the existing post and on the other side a short stub that fit´s in the gimbal.

That way you put the arm further away from the rig and in most cases you can steer clear of your battery or even the camera.

Drill a hole through the stud and you can turn it upside down, with a pin through the gimbal for even lower shots

Hope this helps,

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#3 David Lee

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 10:20 AM


Are you in Bangkok? What mobile nos can I reach you?

Will call you when I got your nos.

Take care.

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#4 guillermo nespolo

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Posted 11 May 2004 - 02:13 PM

hi to everyone...i have a question about the (unfaumos ) univeral low mode cage..
i have notice that in some type of shoots the cage have some vivatring movment...
more or less on fast movments...its this normal ....cause i dont have this effect all the time ...but when i have it realy big on the screen...
u all have the same problem or it is the 3a topstage also helping to have this problem ?

ps i still looking for a bob the rose low mode bracket for arri 3 ...any one have one for sale?
(erwin did u find yours?)
thanks guys ..... :P :) :)

and i hate that f...ing low mode cage....
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#5 George Grammatikos

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Posted 11 May 2004 - 05:50 PM

Hi ,did you try Baer bel cage
Markus have made a strong cage (no more F...g vibrations)
i love low mode but my back hate it (specially in long shoots)
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#6 Alec Jarnagin SOC

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Posted 11 May 2004 - 06:31 PM

I've darn right refused to buy one of these vibration machines because I'd be afraid that I might get tempted to use it! Seriously, low mode cages are notorious for this.
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Posted 14 May 2004 - 08:12 AM

The big improvement in my cage was increasing the riser rods diameter to 5/8 inch, and doubling up the thickness of the base and top, a bit more weight but much better results. I think the last time I used the cage per say was over five years ago...custom brackets are the way to go. and more and more cameras are having top handles made with steadicam mounting in mind, Eg SR3 AD solid no swivel handle and the heavy aluminum handle on the sony 900's is becoming a popular mod....
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Posted 14 May 2004 - 10:18 AM

hey everyone!
as george wrote BAERBEL does have a very nice low mose cage and i promise there is no shaking even with fast movements. it´s easy to build up and the camera gets squished very tight in it.it works with most cameras (sr2,sr3,35III,all video-cameras and as far as i know also with a 435 an other 35mm cameras).
i have one myself,use it very often and i´m really pleased with it

no,i don´t work for Markus but i like his stuff


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Posted 18 May 2004 - 02:53 AM

i got and been testing marcus s cage and i really like it.... had nt thought of "squashing" the camera like u say..... that would work well i think....

yeah its strong... me chuffed

good value too
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#10 guillermo nespolo

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Posted 11 June 2004 - 06:38 PM

this is a question that its gonna make me look very stupid .........
i was working today and i was ask to shot walking guy as reference and on the background on a floor numer 4 other guy saluting the guy that was walking
so i was low mode cause of the angle of the shoot and on the high point of the arm...
the first caracter was walking 2 meters from the wall of the building where the other guy was on floor 4

i end up walking with the post almost horisontal on low mode but with the arm all the way up ...cause they want to see both guy at the same time
this shoot was a pain in the but......

any ideas ...or way to make this shoot more freandly to operate...
a rickshaw was not posible to use ...cause of the space...but that was not problem
the problem for me was the angle that i have to operate the post ..i have put the camera backward ( so the balance keep the shooting up )and the drop slow ...its this ok ? i was trying to not make much force with my operating hand..but was hard
i now that the steadicam have that space on the waist hight that some give u problems
i hope i make my self undertand and it wasent to boring and long explenation ...(u now what i mean with that jim" focus " bartech) :D :D :D
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Posted 11 June 2004 - 07:57 PM

............tilted top stage................$$$$$$$$...........Alien...........Revolution......$$$$

And you can make the drop time from the rig much longer, 6-10 seconds or even neutral.
Then you don´t need so much force to keep the rig in a certain position.
Also harder to control the horizon but on a tilt like this all lines are distorted and it might be less noticible if you are a bit off.

Putting the camera more backwarts will give you a certain offset for the angle but also it is harder to control as it is basically not well balanced.

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Posted 11 June 2004 - 08:02 PM

i will not talk about the alien .....until came out
and for me the mayor problem was the working low mode puting the arm on the more high position ...
what about the isolastic arm will help on this case?
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#13 Larry McConkey

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Posted 14 June 2004 - 12:21 PM

If I understand the situation correctly (I'm not sure I do) a tilt bracket of some kind would have made all the difference. Some low mod brackets (Jerry Hill makes some) have this feature. An add-on is available these days from a few sources and of course the Ultra has it built in. This allows you to keep the post closer to, if not perfectly vertical with an up angle or down angle on the camera and this makes it much easier to get a lower or higher camera height with a narrow front-back profile. This makes it far easier to operate as well, particularly with pans which now are a simple twist of the post rather than the rowing motion required with the post tilted off vertical.

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 10:20 PM

Sorry for intruding as I am just a DP inquiring about your wonderful world of steadicam skills. I have a situation that I'm sure some of you can enlighten me on. I have a shoot in which the Panasonic DVX100 or Canon XL2 will will be used (don't laugh), however, we are shooting with true anamorphic lenses (Elites to be exact) and are going to be using a steadicam. I'm automatically assuming with the additional weight that one of those little dv things won't suffice. The other issue is that we are tracking in front of a Great Shepard dog running close to full speed. Here are my questions. Which steadicam system do you recommend? How do we mount the camera in low mode to get at the eye level of the dog? and what type of mounting do you recommend for the operator to the tracking vehicle? Currently, we are thinking of a golf cart but will probably need something faster. The location is in a park in Manhattan so the surface will be on pavement. Any additional ideas other then a golf cart would be great as well. Thanks for your guys' time.
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#15 Andy Voegeli

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 12:51 AM

If you want to give me a call I can give you some suggestions. And If you need an operator we shoud talk. I have a pro in case your interested in my rig. And an ATV would probably be your best bet for speed, however I'm not sure how the dog would react, you shoud talk to the handler. Give me a call 646-361-3806. mounting the camera and lens you talked about should not be a problem at all.

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