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#1 richard bellon

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:11 AM

Hi All

i was wondering about what cameras guys out there are using mostly?

i mean in the last week i did 3 jobs all on Alexa and some gigs next week also probably on Alexa
the last time i used a 435 was 14mnths ago.
do u guys think RED is gonna fade away cause here the rental companies have halved their rates on MX
my good friend who has been a focus puller for 25 yrs says he hasnt shot on film in a year.
do u guys think its just flavour of month or gonna be around for some time?
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#2 Jarrett Morgan

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:08 AM

I think the Alexa is incredibly popular for good reason. The fact that people have continued to shoot on it even with the advent of the Epic is very telling. The Alexa took the place of the Red One (essentially, I know it is more complex than that), and I am sure that RED and RED enthusiasts were hoping that the Epic would take over the Alexa. Since that hasn't happened, I think the Alexa is here to stay (or at least versions of it eventually).

The last commercial I was on chose to shoot on Alexa even though it was high speed (120fps vs Epic's 300 fps). After seeing the footage, the DP and Director are sold.
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#3 Alec Jarnagin SOC

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 12:48 PM

Things have been pretty much all Alexa in my world. A lot of 3D seems to be Epic but most 2D Alexa. Have not seen a 435 in years. Very little film as well (two years ago I was still 90% 35mm).

We'll see how much the Sony F65 takes off. As an operator, I much prefer the Alexa (both on and off the rig) so I hope things stay Alexa.
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#4 Pedro Guimaraes SOC

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 01:31 PM

yes for good reason....in my opinion.

ARRI was smart to not play the megapixel arms race and focus of the image. It shows IMHO.

Just this last weekend I DP'd a music video, almost used an F65 but was changed to Alexa last min. I'm very happy we did as the F65 would of added to much complexity to the shoot.

Just watched all the dailies with the director yesterday and everyone is just so pleased with the images we got with the alexa.

There is just something so hard to explain about the alexa image characteristic....feels less digital than RED... then again that can all change in post.

not to mention it's just way more ergonomical and practical of a camera than the epic. Shooting epic can be like shooting dslr....

Well....3D.....is dominated by epic. The alexa M is a nice try but not really competition for epic in 3D land.
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#5 William Demeritt

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 01:44 PM

What are you guys talking about, I worked with a 435 just last November, and not on a student film!

Bollywood!!

Alexa is a sweet lady. I like the F65 a lot, but I think Sony has created some tough problems for themselves with this powering situation (108 watts for body and SR-R4 deck). We'll see how everyone can deal with it.

Richard: to address your question: camera company makes a damn good camera that works with their camera accessories. No NEED for 3rd party accessories to make the dynamite go boom. They listened to the 3 people who care the most about the HD camera: DP, operator and editor/post production. That makes for a hell of a lasting impression.

Sony F65 sounds like they talked to DP and Editor, but not operator.
Canon listened to shooters, but disregarded editors and DP's (what latitude? What color correction?)
RED Epic / Alexa listened to reduser members, who seem to only be Internet geeks.
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#6 Alec Jarnagin SOC

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:20 PM

"I like the F65 a lot, but I think Sony has created some tough problems for themselves with this powering situation (108 watts for body and SR-R4 deck). We'll see how everyone can deal with it."

That's just an absurd amount of power. Really.
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#7 Matt Petrosky

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:57 PM

Funny, I've been almost all film since September, including an anamorphic feature and 435/235 commercials and stuff, including time-lapse, and then some Arricam stuff. I do like the Alexa though, and agree that Arri just figured out how to make the images feel more filmic; the Alexa user interface and ergonomics are also really intuitive and user-friendly.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:46 PM

We use an Alexa on Hawaii Five-0 & the pilot "The Last Resort" is also using an Alexa.. However we used an Arri 535 recently on a Japanese commercial for Suntory.. The DP was trained on the Scorpio head and he could do figure 8's blindfolded.. Needless to say I was impressed..There still is a place in this industry for film & in my heart..
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:32 PM

since december i have been shooting on alexa, its doing great in india(bollywood)..there r only 3 to 4 red epics here...its very difficult to rent alexa cameras here...almost all alexa are booked till july or maybe august..!!! :ph34r:
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#10 Sydney Seeber

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 02:22 PM

Canon listened to shooters, but disregarded editors and DP's (what latitude? What color correction?)

why would one compare a ~$60,000 camera to one that's 1/4 of it's value? Those two cameras market to different users with different needs.
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#11 Sanjay Sami

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:17 PM

since december i have been shooting on alexa, its doing great in india(bollywood)..there r only 3 to 4 red epics here...its very difficult to rent alexa cameras here...almost all alexa are booked till july or maybe august..!!! :ph34r:


Thats interesting Kapil.
I have yet to work digital on an Indian film.
It has all been film.
The 2 jobs we went digital on in recent times were both with American DP's
Declan Quinn on "The Reluctant Fundamentalist" with the Alexa
and now Jack Green on "The Letters" with the Panavision Genesis.
95% of my work is still on film.
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