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#1 Patrick Lally

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:07 PM

This was done with a Fujifilm HD2000.

Using a tripod as a stabiliser, the original film was very shakey, but very consistently shakey.
Passed through the YouTube stabilizer to get this result.



Still using a certain steadicam walking technique to TRY to get steady.
The result was very consistant wobble, that software was able to work well with.

Never mind about the technique, is this any good as a shot? :-)
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#2 Brian Freesh

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:37 PM

My lord, Youtube has integrated stabilization software? Of course it does, wow.

This is probably great for most consumer uses, but the warping is far too visible and distracting for my taste. I'd be interested to see that warping effect used purposefully for some sort of storytelling affection, certainly useable for music videos (for the song on the video even) but I'd be really impressed to see it used successfully for a narrative.

This is certainly no stand-in for professional steadicam, though some of the professional stabilization software has been impressive. The less successful that stuff is the happier I will be.
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#3 Amando Crespo

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:45 PM

Patrick says:

"Still using a certain steadicam walking technique to TRY to get steady. :unsure:
The result was very consistant wobble, that software was able to work well with". :o
........with a tripod...... :o :o :o :o :o

What is "steadicam technique walking?.
Please, could you show this?.
Thanks.
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#4 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:19 PM

Still using a certain steadicam walking technique to TRY to get steady.



What would that be, I ask because when I operate I just walk like I've been walking for the last 45 years of my life.. When you try t o change things like the way ou walk you screw up your operating
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#5 Martin Hawkes

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 03:00 AM

Warping is the new lens flare!


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#6 James Davis

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:23 AM

The only walking technique I use is when walking backwards I make sure that I lift my feet a little bit more in case I catch a lighting cable/kerb/object etc mainly because I can't stand the idea of being 100% reliant on a spotter to call out those things to me, other than that I walk like I always have....
Although, I do find when I go round corners, perform a switch or when i'm side-stepping I tend to be more on the balls of my feet than flat footed, maybe something to do with me being more of a forefoot striker when I run, I never intentionally force myself to do it that way it just felt natural and more precise to move like that.

Edited by James Davis, 19 January 2012 - 05:24 AM.

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#7 Patrick Lally

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:02 PM

Patrick says:

"Still using a certain steadicam walking technique to TRY to get steady. :unsure:
The result was very consistant wobble, that software was able to work well with". :o
........with a tripod...... :o :o :o :o :o

What is "steadicam technique walking?.
Please, could you show this?.
Thanks.


When you don't have a rig, but are using a tripod with one outstreached leg as a balance, walking with knees bent and not using heels much helps. A technique to emulate steadicam, although it's a killer. Instead of the weight of the rig killing you, it is the unnatural movement.

Yes, there's warping here, cannot get around that, and in some cases you will get zooming in and out.

But a useful reference for the millions of people using Youtube to make shakey videos.
I shot this knowing that it probably wouldn't be that steady, but that I might be able to fix it in post.

Never saw the YT deshaker option come along in June 2011 or so. Not perfect, but it is fire-and-forget (it's not being processed on your CPU time).

We have a huge hill to climb educating people that the current standard of phone cam stuff is rubbish. Yes, I know that's because the form factor makes it VERY hard to do steady shots, but the first step is to get folks to try.

It get worse. I am seeing professionals using a lot more shakey cam and crazy zoooming in and out as if this is the New Way.
It sucks.

It sucks of very boring source material trying to be beaten into something it is not.
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#8 Patrick Lally

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:06 PM

Warping is the new lens flare!


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I fear you may yet live to regret saying that.

I fear for us all in fact :-|
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#9 Afton Grant

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:09 PM

I fear you may yet live to regret saying that.

I fear for us all in fact :-|


I don't.
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#10 Kevin Andrews SOC

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:07 PM

Still using a certain steadicam walking technique to TRY to get steady.


I tend to use a custom blend of the Los Angeles C-Walk technique made popular by Ice Cube.
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#11 Lars Erik

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:55 PM

I don't get it. What the hell does a guy using a tripod to shoot some footage, then stabilize it in post have to do with this forum...?

What's going on these days? Seems like every new guy here wants to do steadicam, but not willing to invest nothing in it. Not good.
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#12 Amando Crespo

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:38 PM

Dear Patrick
In this forum, like in the life,
In this forum, like in the life, the first elegant thing is to appear being polite and courteous.
In this forum, like in the life there are a way to stay and it is to get information searching in old post and ask for advices after try info.
In this forum, like in the life, there are a very important rule and it is the respect.
In this forum, like in the life, if you make a newbie commentary and it is a little stupid, may be you have a joke answer.
In this forum, like in the life, you will found someones who have white hairs in its gems.
Since you have lost the respect for this forum, I will give an advice for your life:

"see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

No more to said and no more spending time with you. ;)
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#13 James Davis

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:55 PM

Still using a certain steadicam walking technique to TRY to get steady.


I tend to use a custom blend of the Los Angeles C-Walk technique made popular by Ice Cube.



Aha I know it well, here is a Training video of me and the guys working on our technique at a recent "Tiffen Gold Workshop"



If you watch carefully you can see Larry McConkeys feet pass by half way through ;)
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#14 Patrick Lally

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 03:16 PM

Dear Patrick
In this forum, like in the life,
In this forum, like in the life, the first elegant thing is to appear being polite and courteous.
In this forum, like in the life there are a way to stay and it is to get information searching in old post and ask for advices after try info.
In this forum, like in the life, there are a very important rule and it is the respect.
In this forum, like in the life, if you make a newbie commentary and it is a little stupid, may be you have a joke answer.
In this forum, like in the life, you will found someones who have white hairs in its gems.
Since you have lost the respect for this forum, I will give an advice for your life:

"see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

No more to said and no more spending time with you. ;)



My apologies to all.
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#15 Amando Crespo

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:00 PM

DonĀ“t worry guy.
You, like me ,we have the right to be wrong.
See you and take it easy.... ;)
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