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#1 paradjanov

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 09:34 AM

Hi there, i please wanted to know your opinion about L'Aigle Light System, is for operating an HVR-Z1E, do you have any experiences with it? Is this system better than the SteadyCam JR and similars? Can i learn on my own?
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#2 Mikko Wilson

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:08 AM

Hmm, never heard of that rig.. However there has been some discussion recently about flying the FX1 (little sister of the Z1) on the forum here:
http://www.steadicam...?showtopic=1445

However that (imitation) rig looks suspiciously cheap.. 2990? sounds rather risky for something claming to fly 8Kg. I wouldn't trust it with my camera!

A Steadicam JR won't fly the FX1 or the Z1 apparently.. you run a serious risk of breaking the gimble. (read that topic I linked above)

The general consensus for the right rig to fly the Sony HDV cameras is the Steadicam Flyer.. retailing for a little under 7000? in Europe...
I fly a FX1 on the Flyer and I LOVE it! Works really really well.
..picture here: http://www.steadicam.../soaGallery.php (HD Steadicam for under ?11,000)

As with anything, you *can* learn on your own. However it is always better to have some instruction, This holds especially true for Steadicam.
If you ask just about anyone here, they will all highly recomend you take a workshop. go to: http://www.steadicam.com/workshops.htm for a list of upcoming workshops.

Good luck!

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#3 paradjanov

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 02:12 PM

Thank you Mikko for your answer, but i dont have money enough to buy the flyer, and furthermore, i live in Spain, so i believe my attendance to any Workshops would be not very realistic at all... :(

Anyway, ive found another two cheaper models besides the Eagle:
The Glidecam V-20 and the Basson Gullwing500, what you do think about them?

What is the difference if i try one without arm like the Glidecam 4000 PRO? What is the arm for?

Thank you again for your advice

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#4 JobScholtze

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 06:25 PM

What is the difference if i try one without arm like the Glidecam 4000 PRO. What is the arm for?


:D :D :D :D

V20 is a nice rig for that amount of money. DON'T GO FOR THE BASSON. That's a piece of crap.
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#5 Mikko Wilson

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 06:46 PM

The arm carries the rig, so you don't have to! (right guys? B) )

About the workshops, check them out.. the Optex on is in England.. that's not too long of a hop, and it's a good workshop! (not to mention a little cheaper because it's shorter!) -I live (normally) in Finland, and i flew to the US to a workshop.. an I managed to scrounge up the money myself despite still beeing in college!

I agree with Job.. from what i'v heard of Basson, they SUCK.

As far as best low budget contender, i have to say that Glidecam is prolly your best bet.

Unless youa re on a really tight time budget (this is your worst enemy if you are tryign to learn Steadicam.. it WILL take time) i'd sugest you read all you can about the topic.. there is SO much to be leanred on the web, then go to the optex workshop in (May is the next one with space?) and then go to IBC in amsterdam in September and fly all the rigs there for a good sampling of what is out there.

- or just go to NAB in Las Vegas ;)

Sorry if this sounds daunting.. i'm not trying to scare you (or anyone else reading this) off, just reminding you that this will take hard work and perseverance. and some monetary investment too. But it will pay off.

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 01:25 AM

I own a Glidecam 4000 PRO and just used it with my Sony Z1U. It?s smooth and steady. I don?t consider myself a Steadicam operator but it seems o work pretty well. My main complaint is the weighting system involves two stacks of heavy metal washers mounted for and aft hit my knees especially in a Don Yuan position. Also the arms are short compared to a Steadicam. It?s almost like they expected you to operate with the camera right in front of you not to the side. It?s not long enough to get it to the side of my body. Also I don?t think I can adjust the level where the post meets my hip so I find myself stand a little off level to keep the post balanced. It?s a new toy so I may have better answers in the future. I think the easiest way to get really great Steadicam footage is hire a great Steadicam operator
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#7 Tery Thompson

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Posted 12 September 2005 - 12:33 AM

Also the arms are short compared to a Steadicam.  It?s almost like they expected you to operate with the camera right in front of you not to the side.  It?s not long enough to get it to the side of my body.  Also I don?t think I can adjust the level where the post meets my hip so I find myself stand a little off level to keep the post balanced.  It?s a new toy so I may have better answers in the future.  I think the easiest way to get really great Steadicam footage is hire a great Steadicam operator

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What arms are you refering to seeing that you are using the Glidecam 4000? Do you have the Smooth Shooter?

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#8 Mikko Wilson

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 02:53 PM

Robert.. the right place to post stuff for sale is in the "for sale" section of the website.
You will have to pay a small fee to get a "sustaining" membership, that is the cost of advertising - but it goes to running the forum, so it's all good :-)

Why are you selling your such a nice looking rig by the way?

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#9 Mikko Wilson

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 06:33 PM

Yeah i guess yoru post is topical...

but yeah, generaly that's what the for sale saction is for ..it's for anyone who is selling! :-)

Good luck with your car!

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