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#1 Mark Schlicher

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 11:03 AM

What do you generally charge for rain cancellations and postponements? This is for a music video.

Background:

Out of town shoot, roughly three hour drive. I'm riding in the production's van. Friday afternoon travel, Saturday shoot morning and travel back the same day. I'm booked for Friday travel day (day rate x 50%), and shoot day on Saturday. Sunday is on hold as a weather contingency.

Two possible scenarios:

1. If Saturday looks like rain, production may postpone the shoot to Sunday, shifting our travel day to Saturday. They want to make this call on Friday morning. Should there be any penalty for the shift?

2. If we travel on Friday, thinking the weather looks good for Saturday, and it rains unexpectedly on Saturday...then we would postpone to Sunday. So, travel Friday, rainout at the location Saturday, Shoot/travel on Sunday. What is the appropriate charge for Saturday?

I'm speaking mainly of labor...is it reasonable to assume no additional gear rental on days when the rig doesn't actually work?
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#2 Brian Freesh

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 11:19 AM

Mark, sounds like you are already on hold for Sunday for them, and you won't know until Friday if they need you that day or not. Meanwhile, Friday morning comes along and if they postpone are you able to get work for Friday?

They've essentially booked you for 3 days. You cannot book any other work for those days. I would charge accordingly, offering whatever deal I felt was reasonable.
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#3 Adam Eden

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 03:28 PM

Cancellation within 24hours = full rate.

For a music video though... You are lucky to get paid anything anyway so get what you can!
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#4 William Demeritt

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 03:35 PM

They've essentially booked you for 3 days. You cannot book any other work for those days. I would charge accordingly, offering whatever deal I felt was reasonable.


Agreed.
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#5 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:28 PM

Mark,
Rules of thumb:

Travel: anything over 4 hours is a full day pay, with Per Diem

They booked you for 3 days , (essentially 2 days, 2 halfs and one full)
If they postpone on Sat, you charge them a full day because, as Brian pointed out, you can't go home, you can't get work someplace else and your there for them, therefore weather or not they choose to shoot on Sat is Moot, Its a full day regardless!

Oh and BTW . . . I would charge them three days full rig rental as well
The rig can't be rented on friday elsewhere since it's going with you, it may or may not be used Saturday but again you can't rent it out elsewhere and Sunday the same.

JMTC

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Oh and get it in writing when dealing with Music Videos, make them email you at the very least.
and get an insurance cert!
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#6 Mark Schlicher

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 09:11 PM

Thanks, guys.
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#7 thomas-english

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:23 PM

Here in England we would charge half day for the travel day. Full day and overtime (to get home) on the shoot day and if Saturday gets cancelled then full rate sunday as well. Sat and Sun are full rate and full kit days. Here in England it rains all the time and I've been in this position many times.

If you wanted to give them a sleep in your hotel and go on a nice walk discount for your Saturday off that would be up to you. The grips and the sparks wouldn't. If the client is a really good friend or you woke up with the production manager after friday night maybe give them kit for free on Saturday but never your personal rate. The grips/sparks wouldn't.
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#8 Sanjay Sami

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:55 AM

Here in England ..... The grips/sparks wouldn't.


FOR SURE !!!!!!

Kenny Atherfold, John Flemming, Dennis Fraser, David Appleby etc .... Typical response - "Go f%$% yourself you C%$#"
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#9 Daniel Stilling DFF

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 06:10 AM

Here in England ..... The grips/sparks wouldn't.

"Go f%$% yourself you C%$#"


C'mon, watch your language.
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#10 John atkinson

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 03:47 PM

Thanks, guys.


I always do a short deal memo stating everything mentioned and get it signed and returned before you start the job.

-Rate/hours
-rental days and rate
-Hotel, transportation and per diem
-Insurance requirements and policy
-Rain policy. Usually within 24hrs-full day, show up at call and released or begin shooting and released later-full day, before 24hrs notice 1/2 day, etc.

JA
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