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#1 James Leonzio

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 11:09 AM

So I find myself really reaching with my left arm (I fly goofy) across my body to get my Archer2 sled far enough away from my body to the point where it is out of the way of my moving legs. Maybe my arms are a little too short for my wide ass, I don't know.

Either way, I was wondering if there is a longer gimbal handle out there that I could fairly easily replace with my current gimbal handle, thereby relocating the sled slightly farther away from my body without reaching/turning farther.

Any ideas?
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#2 James Davis

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 11:44 AM

Arm extensions, they're all the rage in Finland!
$1200 each or two for $3000
(dual package includes remote wireless gimbal hand) Bonus!!

.......that would be my recommendation anyway.

Edited by James Davis, 25 August 2011 - 11:45 AM.

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#3 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 11:44 AM

Just hold onto the arm. You don't have to hold onto the gimbal handle
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#4 James Leonzio

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 11:53 AM

Arm extensions, they're all the rage in Finland!
$1200 each or two for $3000
(dual package includes remote wireless gimbal hand) Bonus!!

.......that would be my recommendation anyway.


James,

Hahaha. I can't tell if you're trying to make a joke (i.e. human arm extension for $1200 each) or if there is actually some kind of Steadicam arm extension.

Please let me know either way.

thanks
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#5 Tom Wills

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 12:26 PM

Hey James,

I believe he was making a joke.

On a serious note though - you're probably standing wrong. Check out page 10 of Chris Fawcett's Steadicam Posture document: http://steadivision..../steadipos3.pdf . You should be standing at a 45 degree angle to the rig - not parallel to it. It brings the rig closer in to your body, allowing for less strain, it allows you to see more to the back, see your monitor more clearly, and fit through smaller spaces too. Plus you're not going to end up tweaking your shoulder. Very, very helpful thing to get into the habit of doing.
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#6 Jerry Holway

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 12:28 PM

James-

A suggestion: turn your hips towards the camera a little. It sounds like you are too square to the rig, hence the long reach.

Jerry
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#7 James Davis

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:26 PM

What they said ^^ and yes I was joking ;)
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:27 PM

Although in China some people get leg extensions.....so who knows, plastic surgery these days is pretty advanced....you wouldn't want to end up with arms like an orangutang though!
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#9 James Leonzio

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:29 PM

Ha. Cool. Thanks for everyone's replies. Proof of the great Steadicam community again...
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#10 Matteo Quagliano

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:18 AM

I got the same feeling with my Archer 1. Gimble too small. Then the other day I was on a Pilot shooting for the first time and find its gimble way way better then the Archer'. Ok it's smaller in size but longer and easier to grab. In a word I find it fantastic.

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#11 James Davis

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 11:25 AM

I think the problem is that older gimbal/sled designs weren't really designed with larger HD or even SD style monitors in mind, with bigger monitors a longer yoke gives you much easier vision of the screen when you are moving around the rig and doing switches.
However I guess with the older sleds (and even up until recently probably) a TB-6 or Pro monitor was probably the premium monitor which was only a small screen so I imagine the gimbal yokes were most likely made to a length which suited them accordingly, also I guess as materials and metals have got better over the years physically they can withstand more leverage and force so that probably plays a part in gimbal handles becoming longer I imagine, previously it may have been that they would had to have compromised a little on length to keep it strong enough for the heavier payloads.
Obviously there is the added bonus of having more room for your hand to wrap around as well, which is nice, I actually prefer this on the archer 2 over my archer 1, but i've worked with my Archer 1 for long enough now that it doesn't really bother me so much anymore as I am comfortable with the rig.....although I am looking forward to the day when I have enough cash spare to build a complete pro rig with a longer gimbal yoke like the XCS one.
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