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#1 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:00 AM

Hi Chaps,

I have just been offered a gig for September which involves a 5 min one shot music video ending with a helicopter step on/sit on. Helicopter ascends to reveal an aerial shot of a village.

Has anyone ever done this before? I know I haven't.

Obviously safety is my first concern, is this even a sensible thing to do? It sounds like it could be good fun but I have no idea on where to start when it comes to planning for something like this.

Any advice is much appreciated, cheers.
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#2 John atkinson

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:26 AM

Hi Chaps,

I have just been offered a gig for September which involves a 5 min one shot music video ending with a helicopter step on/sit on. Helicopter ascends to reveal an aerial shot of a village.

Has anyone ever done this before? I know I haven't.

Obviously safety is my first concern, is this even a sensible thing to do? It sounds like it could be good fun but I have no idea on where to start when it comes to planning for something like this.

Any advice is much appreciated, cheers.

I recall when I got my first rig, the EFP manual stated boldly " Never use a steadicam in a helicopter". The g-forces will throw the rig all around. It's very dangerous!

JA



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#3 Sydney Seeber

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:48 AM

That is a terrible idea. Cranes and whatnot make safe® helicopters. Who's going to strap you in? (Among SO many other questions) I suppose it depends on what type of helo, but good lord
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#4 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 08:17 AM

It's just an idea they proposed to me at the moment but it's something I know nothing about.

From these two replies I guess it's just a terrible idea (To be honest, I thought that myself) but I thought i'd seek advice on the matter anyway.

Maybe it's a case of cutting to the helicopter shot and doing it handheld.

I can handle booming for the stop in the elevator but during the lift in a helicopter I think might be out of the question.
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#5 RonBaldwin

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 08:59 AM

the rotor-wash shouldn't be a problem
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#6 Sydney Seeber

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 09:19 AM

well it doesn't have to be handheld, I mean if they're willing to foot the bill for a helo, why not get a helo with a Wescam? Or the poor boy method which involves Bungee cords and a gyro, that works really well. Or, the jib/crane thing.
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#7 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 10:10 AM

It's for the military so the helicopter rental is well.... not a rental.

I've already told the guy that this sort of thing is out of the question.

I had never heard of this being done/attempted at it's pretty obvious why really.

Oh well, worth asking.

Cheers guys.
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#8 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:01 AM

Music video for the military? Huh?
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#9 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:41 AM

It's for the British Army.

A town here in the UK is becoming a 'Royal' town.

Royal Wootten I think - They are celebrating it by doing something wacky.
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#10 Charles Papert

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 02:03 PM

No doubt this project was inspired by the same ending in the Grand Rapids lipdub:



The joys of the ever-growing Steadicam community. Probably no-one ever told the young man with the Glidecam that clambering onto a helicopter with a rig might not be a safe idea, so why wouldn't he do it?
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#11 Jess Haas SOC

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:42 PM

But he had a life jacket on. What could go wrong? Posted Image
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#12 William Demeritt

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 06:57 PM

They are celebrating it by doing something wacky.


They celebrate by sacrificing the life of a Steadicam operator? Sounds hardcore. Oh well, there are plenty around...
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#13 Peter Schmehl

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 02:46 PM

Hey folks,

well, the vid that Charles posted is great... but seriously.... a Glidecam?!? phew... ;) Anyways, I was thinking of a helicopter step on once and did some research. The strong wind underneath the helicopter will kill your steady move totally, even with gyros. The lift off should bring great force to the booming of the steadicams arm. And so on... like Sydney already said, who will strap you in and how responsible is that person doing it.

If you do it anyways, please let us know about your experiences. Good luck Jamie!!!

fly save,

Peter
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#14 Rob Vuona SOC

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 07:29 PM

Fun Video,

But it says New World Record attached to it, really? anyone know for what?
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#15 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 09:07 PM

I was thinking of a helicopter step on once and did some research. The strong wind underneath the helicopter will kill your steady move totally, even with gyros. The lift off should bring great force to the booming of the steadicams arm.



I'm not endorsing shooting from a helicopter with Steadicam but I should clarify. At neutral pitch there is no rotor wash from the helicopter blades, You only get rotor wash when the pilot is "Pulling Pitch" also the liftoff if not overly aggressive will not "Bring great force to the booming of the steadicams arm"

and for the record, I have used steadicam in a helicopter and even have a STC'd hard mount for a jet ranger
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