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#1 Blair Phillips

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 08:34 PM

Hey guys,

It seems that my stage has has come slightly loose on the post. when I move it quickly I can notice the stage slide forward or back about 2mm. Anybody know a way I can fix this? I am kind of afraid to go in there with some screw drivers and experiment.
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#2 Douglas John Kropla

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 09:16 PM

Hey Blair, can you take a pic for me maybe I can help? I had to do a few things to that sled when I got it ie; tighten or loosen a bolt or screw here and there.
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#3 Andrew Stone

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:15 AM

If the top stage is built the way my second gen Flyer is, you have the same problem I had a while ago.

Try looking under the rear portion of the top stage without a camera on it. You should see two allen bolts going through a metal wedge. Wiggle the top stage unit and you will probably see some slop and the top stage rattling about about a 1/32nd to a 16th of an inch. With some hand pressure and a paper shim to help I was able to tighten up the metal wedge and fix the problem. You may have make a couple of attempts at it to get the alignment done right. Once done try moving the side to side adjustment knob to make sure the alignment is done correctly and it turns with relative ease.

Hope your problem is this simple.

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#4 Blair Phillips

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 10:51 AM

If the top stage is built the way my second gen Flyer is, you have the same problem I had a while ago.

Try looking under the rear portion of the top stage without a camera on it. You should see two allen bolts going through a metal wedge. Wiggle the top stage unit and you will probably see some slop and the top stage rattling about about a 1/32nd to a 16th of an inch. With some hand pressure and a paper shim to help I was able to tighten up the metal wedge and fix the problem. You may have make a couple of attempts at it to get the alignment done right. Once done try moving the side to side adjustment knob to make sure the alignment is done correctly and it turns with relative ease.

Hope your problem is this simple.

-Andrew



Thanks guys. This morning when I was looking at it I did notice the two hexagonal bolts were loose, so I will give that a try once I get my Allen keys back
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#5 Blair Phillips

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 01:24 PM

I put a folded piece of paper between the wedge and the stage, worked perfectly. thanks!
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 11:27 PM

Hi Blair,

What I did was to use the a paper shim to help push the topstage plate and the adjustable metal wedge strip together and in a controlled alignment and then remove the paper shim as I was tightening down the bolts. The amount of torque on those pieces of metal is huge and you really want metal on metal without paper or cardboard in there that will compress if even just a small bit.

I should have been explicit when I mentioned the use of a shim in the process of tightening things down.
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#7 Blair Phillips

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 08:44 PM

Hi Blair,

What I did was to use the a paper shim to help push the topstage plate and the adjustable metal wedge strip together and in a controlled alignment and then remove the paper shim as I was tightening down the bolts. The amount of torque on those pieces of metal is huge and you really want metal on metal without paper or cardboard in there that will compress if even just a small bit.

I should have been explicit when I mentioned the use of a shim in the process of tightening things down.

Do you mean clamping them together with a wrench using paper on either side prevent damaging the metal? I am back to being lost.
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#8 Andrew Stone

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 12:55 AM

No. The end result is you want to have the metal wedge secured down with the two allen bolts in a way that the wedge is pushed over towards the piece of metal it rests against on the underside of the top stage. Again metal against metal. The paper slip is used simply as an aid to help push the wedge in place while you gently tighten the allen bolts until the top stage is snug and secure, without any jimmy or rattle. If this is confusing simply don't use the shim as an aid, use your fingers instead. You also want to make sure you tighten the top stage in a way that it aligns up so the side to side adjust mechanism is easy to adjust. I found if you aren't cognizant of that when you are tightening the allen bolts that even the slightest misalignment of the top stage when tightening would impinge on the movement of the side to side adjustment.
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#9 Blair Phillips

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 08:04 PM

No. The end result is you want to have the metal wedge secured down with the two allen bolts in a way that the wedge is pushed over towards the piece of metal it rests against on the underside of the top stage. Again metal against metal. The paper slip is used simply as an aid to help push the wedge in place while you gently tighten the allen bolts until the top stage is snug and secure, without any jimmy or rattle. If this is confusing simply don't use the shim as an aid, use your fingers instead. You also want to make sure you tighten the top stage in a way that it aligns up so the side to side adjust mechanism is easy to adjust. I found if you aren't cognizant of that when you are tightening the allen bolts that even the slightest misalignment of the top stage when tightening would impinge on the movement of the side to side adjustment.

ah, so I was over-complicating it in my mental picture. thanks
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