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#1 Kenny Brown SOC

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Posted 08 November 2004 - 08:57 PM

Hi all

I'm in the process of getting my first showreel together and am looking for feedback. Haven't got all the bits and pieces in from various DP's/Producers etc but throwing this up as rough cut.

http://www.kennybrow...Steadicam 1.mov

I'd really appreciate any suggestions and comments.

Many thanks

Kenny
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#2 fosteralex

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 05:28 AM

Hi Kenny,

Nice footage :) At first I thought that it hadn't loaded but it just took a while - worth waiting for. In one running shot towards the end I spotted shadow from your kit maybe drop that shot....

All the best,


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#3 Matt Burton

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 05:07 PM

link aint working t the moment ?
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#4 Kenny Brown SOC

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 06:48 PM

Link should be back up - sorry about that, I've replaced it with a smaller file, but it still takes ages to load on windows for some reason. Trying figure this stuff out.

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 08:50 AM

Link should be back up - sorry about that, I've replaced it with a smaller file, but it still takes ages to load on windows for some reason.  Trying figure this stuff out.

Kenny

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Yup link back :o) just downloadin now.
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#6 Matt Burton

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 09:07 AM

Some great shots their ! the only thing that realy stands out is it's way too long.
I would completly change the tempo and make it much faster, play more with timewarping if possible, most steadicam can be made 1000x's better with good timewarping.
The main thing is that you cram as much wow factor into the pice as soon as possible.
Good luck

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#7 Brant S. Fagan SOC

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 09:17 AM

Gents--

One thought on demo footage.

Keep in mind that most folks at home won't even watch a :30 spot all the way through.

Hit 'em hard up front, show some famous faces if you got 'em and keep the shots brief and moving. End the piece with something just as strong as the first piece in case they watched the whole thing.

In my experience, brevity and variety will always keep them calling!

Best,

Brant S. Fagan, SOC

PS If you even hesitate (about a shot) take it out!
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#8 David Allen Grove

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 03:06 PM

Brant,

Good Advice.

Liz Zeiglar's demo runs 1:55 and has a ton of "faces" each shot runs litterally 1 to 3 seconds. Just enough to recognize a face or movie. There might be one or two that lasted as long as 4 seconds.

Speaking of Demo Reels...

The Steadicam Guild is having another Demo Reel viewing/swap meet on November 20th.

I'll send out emails for location. http://www.steadicamguild.net
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#9 mattmarek

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 09:12 PM

i personaly think 3 second cuts is too quick. how does that show off one's skill at steadicam? wouldn't a 1:55 length reel with a handful of lengthier takes prove one's expertise more? any hack can keep a rig level for 3 seconds. :)

my take on it if i were a dop or director viewing.
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Posted 10 November 2004 - 09:28 PM

Good reel. Many similar shots. Lets face it. If they see you can compose on the fly and move with a level horizon that's good enough for most :-). Secondly, I would suggest superimposing the show titles at the bottom of each shot. Lets people know what they're looking at.
Good job!
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#11 Alec Jarnagin SOC

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Posted 10 November 2004 - 11:05 PM

"i personaly think 3 second cuts is too quick. how does that show off one's skill at steadicam? wouldn't a 1:55 length reel with a handful of lengthier takes prove one's expertise more? any hack can keep a rig level for 3 seconds."

Depends on who you are and what segment of the market you are after. In Liz's case, I don't think her intention is to say anything about holding horizon, etc. At the level of work she is trying to capture, that is taken for granted. By showing face after face after face, she is letting the Producers know that they are in good hands because she has worked in the big leagues time and time again with all of these famous people.

If you don't have all those major credits and names then I would suggest showing more than three seconds per shot, BUT once the viewer has the idea on any given shot, move on. Save the long takes for showing to fellow Ops over beers - Producers and Directors are often easily bored. Keep your reel to 2-3 minutes. In my case, my reel is three minutes and I start with the faces for the Producers, then move on to some interesting, but quick stuff (long lens, slow subtle stuff) for the DPs and directors, then end with a shot that has no one famous in it, but it is a cool move to reward the DP, who is presumably the only one left watching at this point because as a fellow cameraman they are more likely to hang in there!

So much of what we do has nothing to do with our footage.
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#12 David Allen Grove

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Posted 11 November 2004 - 09:57 AM

Alec is correct.

I certainly couldn't get away with 2- 3 second shots on my reel.
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Posted 11 November 2004 - 01:14 PM

When i read your posts David, i can't stop looking at your avatar. :P

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#14 Kenny Brown SOC

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 05:48 PM

Hi All

Thanks for the comments - I'm going to make a short online reel and make a longer one available on DVD. Going to try some ramping.

Thanks

Kenny
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