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#1 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:37 PM

$2500 flat-rate for a week including kit and travel time? Really?

Working for one of the largest Fortune 100 companies in the world for $2500 flat rate... really?

Working in a Union facility for $2500 flat rate and taking work from local brothers and sisters... really?

Low-balling what was a full-rate job in the past... really?

Destroying rates that reputable operators have spent years building / upholding... priceless!

I can't wait to meet you, watch you work and post your picture on the Forum so everyone can see what a low-baller looks like.


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#2 Tom Daigon

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:38 PM

$2500 flat-rate for a week including kit and travel time? Really?

Working for one of the largest Fortune 100 companies in the world for $2500 flat rate... really?

Working in a Union facility for $2500 flat rate and taking work from local brothers and sisters... really?

Low-balling what was a full-rate job in the past... really?

Destroying rates that reputable operators have spent years building / upholding... priceless!

I can't wait to meet you, watch you work and post your picture on the Forum so everyone can see what a low-baller looks like.


Robert


Hi Robert:

To quote Jimmy Durante "What a revoltin' development this is".

Just to make sure I understand...this person is charging $2500 for a FULL WEEK?
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#3 Eric Fletcher S.O.C.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:46 PM

I wonder if this op thinks that they got the job because they are a "better" operator or if they actually realize that they were only hired because they are cheap...

Oh and a special message for that op. Thanks, Thanks for driving the rate down and damaging the position, way to go, you da man
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#4 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 02:10 PM

Just to make sure I understand...this person is charging $2500 for a FULL WEEK?


Two days travel three days work.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 06:58 PM

Robert,
is he Union?
You know who he is?
Have you called him and told him what he did?

grrrrrr.....!
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 07:47 PM

I cant wait to see the pictures Robert, $2500 is well just ridiculous......
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#7 Lawrence Karman

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:19 PM

$2500 flat-rate for a week including kit and travel time? Really?

Working for one of the largest Fortune 100 companies in the world for $2500 flat rate... really?

Working in a Union facility for $2500 flat rate and taking work from local brothers and sisters... really?

Low-balling what was a full-rate job in the past... really?

Destroying rates that reputable operators have spent years building / upholding... priceless!

I can't wait to meet you, watch you work and post your picture on the Forum so everyone can see what a low-baller looks like.


Robert



I got called the last week by a DP I know for a one day job on Sunday in that burning hell you call home, Robert. Didn't think I could make my schedule work so I gave him your name and # and he later said the producer quickly rejected it. I wonder if it is the same company. Someone contacted me this morning asking If I was interested and I quoted him a decent rate and he was OK with that.
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#8 Aaron Medick SOC

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:20 PM

Robert if you know how it was please PM me. I'd hate to recommend/meet/ know the person.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:50 PM

Robert if you know how it was please PM me. I'd hate to recommend/meet/ know the person.


I'm awaiting that information as well, Aaron.
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#10 Robert Starling SOC

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:24 PM

I got called the last week by a DP I know for a one day job on Sunday in that burning hell you call home, Robert. ...


Thanks for the referral attempt! Much appreciated!

Not the same job Doc, this one I'm referencing is mid-August. The only job I got a call for this Sunday was shooting REHAB at the Hard Rock all day outdoors in 110 degs heat flying a Varicam amongst a sea of drunks! They wanted a low flat rate for 12 hours, no OT and I don't do that; at least not unless they are very close friends and I'm doing a personal favor.

Thanks!

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 01:10 AM

Robert,

PM me the name too. Aaron, Afton and I will tar and feather the prick.
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#12 Ken Nguyen

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 03:17 AM

Hi all,
Low-baller = Low skill and/or low artistic mind.
99.5% of the time production get what they pay for.
I hate Low-baller; but, I sometime feel happy if one jump in steeling my work by offering low rate!
Why? because I know for sure, next time when I'm back, that producer will respect me more.

Robert, just make sure you have a solid proof before you public his name and photo.
His explanation may help to clear up question.
Sometime, we have to look with one eye only so a fellow op can slit pass the border. In the situation when, he or she is in financial trouble.
My 2 c,
Ken Nguyen.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 05:19 AM

Hi everyone
I know exactly how you all fell I have lost out on many jobs to low ballers .On one job the DP wanted me but the PM told him he had to use this guy because the other guy was cheaper(only several 100 $) . After the Reshoots he wasn't cheaper and the PM will never use that guy again . In this case the operator was found out and thing worked out in my favour.

There are also other op's how should know better (You know how you are) they are only thinking of themselves and don't give a #### about any one else but themselves .I hate that and I will never help/support them .
just my 2 cents.
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#14 Emre Tufekci

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:44 AM

I recently got call from a producer in DC area asking for a low rate. Here was our conversation:

Producer: Hi I found your information on steadicam-ops.com and loved your reel.
Me: Thanks, how can I help?
Producer: We need a steadicam op for 5 days buy I can only pay half rate. I also need you to throw in a follow focus, wireless and monitor for free.
Me: My rate is my rate and I cant give you that stuff for free.
Producer: What can you give me for free?
Me: A dial tone...click

He never called back. B)
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:44 AM

Baseball bat. Knee caps. Career done. Goons to execute=$100.00
Just sayin'

Peace and Love otherwise to my righteous Steadicam Brethren : )
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