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Best wireless HD-SDI solution for Flyer LE?? IDX CW-5HD?


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#1 jb reodica

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 01:53 PM

Hello

I'm looking to tailor a system using Sony XDCAM EX3's, a Flyer LE and possibly an IDX CW-5HD.

I'm doing live events and would be transmitting for Record and IMAG.

I haven't seen many discussions here on the forum regarding wireless.. please help! Thanks!

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#2 JobScholtze

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:31 PM

www.transvideointl.com
www.boxx.tv

the only 2 affordable options at the moment i believe
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#3 Scott Jason Gill

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:45 PM

You should really demo these units. I can only speak for the cam-wave. It makes a fine confidence/video assist system, but its not really robust enough for live imag and recording at any broadcast level. They simply don't have the range for that application except maybe in a very small close range environment. Your likely going to need to get into the range of COFDM systems for that. Unfortunately, we're talking $50k+ for a system robust enough for that application and in the $100k area for an HD system.
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#4 jb reodica

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 08:06 AM

You should really demo these units. I can only speak for the cam-wave. It makes a fine confidence/video assist system, but its not really robust enough for live imag and recording at any broadcast level. They simply don't have the range for that application except maybe in a very small close range environment. Your likely going to need to get into the range of COFDM systems for that. Unfortunately, we're talking $50k+ for a system robust enough for that application and in the $100k area for an HD system.



Hmmm... i understand however that the IDX Camwave 5HD can also multi-cast to more than 1 receiver... so perhaps for a live event you can position 1 HD-SDI receiver up in the lighting rig, another 1 back at FOH, and a third receiver halfway down or something. That way its always withing range of a receiver. I believe its range is about 150'.

I'll have to find out which supplier has these here in Toronto, Canada so i can get it brought into the shop for some testing. (the $50K solution is probably a little too steep)
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#5 Jason Torbitt

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:52 AM

The Boxx is what I use for all of this type of work. It is reliable and I've not needed multiple RX units yet. Don't forget on 9 out of 10 instances the vision control will be behind the stage / screen, so your RX won't be far away most of the event...

Also you will need power options for your Flyer LE unless you're going to power TX off the camera. I've got an LE as a running rig and I am having mine adapted with a power breakout box.
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#6 Andrew Stone

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 08:54 AM

If you haven't seen this thread, you should read it. It gives a good bit about successful field experience with the Transvideo unit. It costs more than the Camwave but it looks like the signal is consistently better for live work. I assume you have read the threads on the Camwave. There are quite a few and the unit is not without issues.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:14 AM

When I click to watch the video I get a notice that the video is private...... I'd like to see it.
and yes I am signed into my Youtube account.
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:49 AM

Hi there!

I have been using Scotts systems for the last 5-6 years i think... For the last few years I've had the meridian.
before that I had the Modolus 3000, a system from Marell.. and right now im on a production where the Camewave has been "forced"
upon me...
Camewave is a good system, not a lot of break-up, good distance... but still, the Meridian is just better.. less break up and even better distance.
And service from The Boxx is second to none.. so I would not hesitate to recommend the Meridian.. you wont be disappointed...!

all the best

Flemming Laybourn / Denmark

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#9 Scott Walker

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 04:42 PM

When I click to watch the video I get a notice that the video is private...... I'd like to see it.
and yes I am signed into my Youtube account.


Sorry about that, I had to take it down as the producers had a problem with it because you could see a list of characters which was confidential. I'm blurring the shot and will post tomorrow.

Edited by Scott Walker, 12 January 2012 - 04:42 PM.

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#10 Tim Moynihan

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 03:34 PM

I also use the Meridian and am extremely happy with it. More than that, my DP is extremely happy with it as well. I, like most of us, am always searching for the best wireless image I can get. The Meridian is really the only viable option we have. I've seen some good results from Hamlet's unit (HP Video) which was posted on the forum but haven't tested it myself.
I will agree, also, the Customer Service I have received from both Mark and Scott and Marius at The Boxx has been excellent to say the least.

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#11 Ed Moore

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:19 PM

The video of me waffling on about the Boxx Meridian system is back online:



Sorry to Scott for making him take it down seconds after it had gone up; we realised the cast / character list was visible on the side of the camera and it's all hush-hush.

The Meridian has been absolutely flawless. Can't recommend it enough.
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#12 Charles Papert

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:25 PM

We had the Boxx (with outboard patch antenna setup) on Steadicam for a recent 5 camera shoot. The camera was roaming around the house, all over a 400 seat theater. We weren't recording off the unit, it was iso on each camera, but for viewing purposes the image was flawless. At one point I leaned over to the engineer and reminded him that camera 5 was wireless. "Holy s**t, I totally forgot" was his response.

'Nuff said.
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